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Re: My Pup from hollydrive Kurt

Post by scot-ish » Wed Jan 11, 2017 2:38 pm

produced this year winner.
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Re: My Pup from hollydrive Kurt

Post by Sgurr » Wed Jan 11, 2017 2:48 pm

Congratulations - your pup is now half-sister to this year's ESS Champion!

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Re: My Pup from hollydrive Kurt

Post by James » Wed Jan 11, 2017 5:43 pm

Sgurr wrote:
Judy wrote:Also the gene pool is narrowing all the time so the diseases, which have alway been present, are more likely to appear because there is much less genetic diversity now than there was in the 60's and 70's.
This is why it is important to test and so Carriers are bred responsibly to Clears for the gene pool to be kept as wide as possible.
But you and I both know that people are still very blinkered by this. Very few are brave enough to use a known carrier and even less run good carrier bitchs on.
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Re: My Pup from hollydrive Kurt

Post by Dawnrazor » Wed Jan 11, 2017 6:10 pm

*takes a deep breath and prepares himself*

Has Kurt been tested? Or, I as think, it's a process of elimination that points the eye problem towards him?
He's a real thing and, imo, the best stud dog Ian has.

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Re: My Pup from hollydrive Kurt

Post by Alice » Wed Jan 11, 2017 6:21 pm

Dawnrazor wrote:*takes a deep breath and prepares himself*

Has Kurt been tested? Or, I as think, it's a process of elimination that points the eye problem towards him?
He's a real thing and, imo, the best stud dog Ian has.
Nope he's not been. So on that basis, my earlier comment which I think has been deleted? Or didn't post, whatever, stands, that he's a 'suspected' carrier by offspring.

Now his daughter has won the champs he will hopefully be used plenty but lets hope the bitches are tested as common sense would dictate.
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Re: My Pup from hollydrive Kurt

Post by WGD » Wed Jan 11, 2017 6:21 pm

Dawnrazor wrote:*takes a deep breath and prepares himself*

Has Kurt been tested? Or, I as think, it's a process of elimination that points the eye problem towards him?
He's a real thing and, imo, the best stud dog Ian has.
I've one of the earliest Kurt pups, and a littermate of his tested as a Carrier so I had mine done, also a Carrier. His dam has since tested clear so it would point towards Kurt being a carrier but I'm no expert in genetics.

Would I use Kurt at stud, absolutely.

Would I have a pup by him to a quality, but untested, bitch... yes I'd take my chances.

The quality of dogs he has produced, including my own which just needed a better trainer, for me outweighs the risk (and that is what is is, not a guarantee) of an eye condition developing even in dog who is genetically affected.

Tin hat on.
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Re: My Pup from hollydrive Kurt

Post by scot-ish » Wed Jan 11, 2017 6:47 pm

WGD wrote:
Dawnrazor wrote:*takes a deep breath and prepares himself*

Has Kurt been tested? Or, I as think, it's a process of elimination that points the eye problem towards him?
He's a real thing and, imo, the best stud dog Ian has.
I've one of the earliest Kurt pups, and a littermate of his tested as a Carrier so I had mine done, also a Carrier. His dam has since tested clear so it would point towards Kurt being a carrier but I'm no expert in genetics.

Would I use Kurt at stud, absolutely.

Would I have a pup by him to a quality, but untested, bitch... yes I'd take my chances.

The quality of dogs he has produced, including my own which just needed a better trainer, for me outweighs the risk (and that is what is is, not a guarantee) of an eye condition developing even in dog who is genetically affected.

Tin hat on.
naw yi havny just said that.... i hope you've a bunker.... incoming :D
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Re: My Pup from hollydrive Kurt

Post by WGD » Wed Jan 11, 2017 6:52 pm

scot-ish wrote:
WGD wrote:
Dawnrazor wrote:*takes a deep breath and prepares himself*

Has Kurt been tested? Or, I as think, it's a process of elimination that points the eye problem towards him?
He's a real thing and, imo, the best stud dog Ian has.
I've one of the earliest Kurt pups, and a littermate of his tested as a Carrier so I had mine done, also a Carrier. His dam has since tested clear so it would point towards Kurt being a carrier but I'm no expert in genetics.

Would I use Kurt at stud, absolutely.

Would I have a pup by him to a quality, but untested, bitch... yes I'd take my chances.

The quality of dogs he has produced, including my own which just needed a better trainer, for me outweighs the risk (and that is what is is, not a guarantee) of an eye condition developing even in dog who is genetically affected.

Tin hat on.
naw yi havny just said that.... i hope you've a bunker.... incoming :D
Only speaking personally :o
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Re: My Pup from hollydrive Kurt

Post by James » Wed Jan 11, 2017 7:12 pm

Just look at the last few champs for all breeds. Theres been a good number of carriers of one thing or another win them. A good dog is a good dog
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Re: My Pup from hollydrive Kurt

Post by Dawnrazor » Wed Jan 11, 2017 7:15 pm

James wrote: A good dog is a good dog
Unless it goes blind I suppose.

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