Exercise plan for an elderly, obese Springer.

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Exercise plan for an elderly, obese Springer.

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I've been boggling over this one for a while, and then realised that out of all the places I frequent, this forum may actually prove more insightful given the common interest (i.e. the amount of Springers and owners I'm sure are here :P).

So, a little profile.

Merlin, my English Springer (working lines) is nearing 13 years old. He's a little arthritic in his back end but is extremely laid back, content and happy. Even our vet remarks on how chilled out he is. He's also gotten a bit tubby over the last couple of years. This is likely to have been helped along by the fact that we've had to endure a couple of house moves, my mum has been having ongoing health problems and we lost our Setter, his companion of 11 years. i.e. it's been a stressful couple of years. We're amazed the old boy hasn't gotten paranoid and neurotic. When I say he's 'tubby' we're looking at weight of around 30kg BUT he is big for a worker, always has been. He's very long in the back and leg when you sit him next to others, many of which seem tiny by comparison.

Health-wise, the vet is happy with him, although he does have a number of fatty lumps these days that we keep an eye on. The weight concern has been raised and is being addressed through careful diet and strict treat control. So that side of things is under control.

However. The exercise side of things is proving a bit problematic. We live near several lovely wooded areas and beaches which we love to take him to. Whilst he is a bit naughty (he was our first dog so we made a few mistakes in his training), he's generally well behaved off the lead. But every time you let him off the lead, he tries to run like he's 2 years old. Or just gets so fixated on a scent (a problem of ours) that he disappears off into the wilderness until he remembers he's with someone. Which means, suffice to say, that he ends up over-doing it in the space of about 30 minutes and the next few days are confined to short lead walks because he's unable to do much.

What this means is that per week, Merlin is likely only getting 2-3 'proper' walking sessions, filled in-between, by lead walks that can vary from 15 mins to 30 or so depending on his movement and I'm not sure that this is proving the most effective way to help get his weight under control. We're going to go back to the vet to discuss the arthritis concern, but he really doesn't help himself by going bonkers off the lead. Unfortunately I'm still working on the way I can get him to understand 'take it easy, old chap' :D

I'd be very interested in hearing the thoughts and advice of people who have perhaps had to manage similar situations or who may have general tips for working with a very stubborn Springer :P

Thanks in advance.
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At 13 I dont think going back to basics and teaching recall will work :lol: , I had an old springer who would get very stiff after 30 mins of thinking he was a 2 year old I just would let him do it his way and rest him for a few days much the same as you are at the moment, the only other way is lead only walking and I am sorry but my old Drakey deserved to have a bit of fun in his old age even if he hurt for a day or 2.
I suffer with a bad back and a touch of arthritis but I will not give in to it and sit in a chair waiting for god and I would not expect my dogs to do that either.

Get the weight off as soon as you can this will really help the dog, my doc says if I loose a couple of stone I will feel so much better :lol:
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Is your vet happy he doesn't have an underlying health problem such as hypothyroidism? If he does this will make everything else really tough until treated.
If he has pain issues these need addressing or any exercise plan will be unfair. Dogs like springers will tolerate a lot of pain of doing things they enjoy!
Lead walks are fine for older dogs and allow you to control what he does. Start with level ground at a reasonable pace and two or three short walks a day. As his fitness improves extend the walks and introduce more testing terrain such as slopes, steps, uneven ground. People worry about their dog not free running at this stage but they don't need it. The increased interaction with the handler during the active lead walks makes up for it. In woodland use a long line to allow him to sniff and explore but not bugger off!
If you have a local hydrotherapy pool consider this too as it can be great non-weight bearing exercise.
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I would be tempted put him on Joint Aid (http://www.jointaid.co.uk/) to help him with his mobility issues, Google it for the cheapest places to buy. You should notice a marked difference in his joint stiffness once he’s been taking it for a while.

As Vicky has said his pain needs addressing though but that can be a double edged sword if you let him do too much whilst he’s not feeling uncomfortable.

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jeffD wrote:At 13 I dont think going back to basics and teaching recall will work :lol: , I had an old springer who would get very stiff after 30 mins of thinking he was a 2 year old I just would let him do it his way and rest him for a few days much the same as you are at the moment, the only other way is lead only walking and I am sorry but my old Drakey deserved to have a bit of fun in his old age even if he hurt for a day or 2.
I suffer with a bad back and a touch of arthritis but I will not give in to it and sit in a chair waiting for god and I would not expect my dogs to do that either.

Get the weight off as soon as you can this will really help the dog, my doc says if I loose a couple of stone I will feel so much better :lol:
Well said Jeff, I go with that exactly. At 13yrs of age let him do what he wants to do, you control the diet part of things. Enjoy every day you have with him, JMO.
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@jeffD & Bruneval3: Hi Jeff & Bruneval :) Our thoughts have been pretty much the same. At 13 we're happiest knowing that HE'S content and enjoying himself. It's why we take him up the woods as much as we can as you can see that he is just in his element. Diving head-first into the bushes, tail wagging so fast that his backside ought to be levitating off the ground! As much as he loves being 'out' in general, you really see him come to life in wooded areas. The biggest 'offender' has been his scent fixation. He'll just follow and follow it until either it runs out or we manage to distract him from it. I don't want to submit him to an intense regime if it means he'll be miserable, but I do want to take his health on board at the same time (if that makes sense).

@vicky payne: Hi Vicky :) He had a checkup not long ago as he developed a small lick granuloma shortly after we lost the Setter. At the same time we had him looked over and she was happy that he was in good health and didn't seem to think that there was any underlying problems going on. Aside from the weight and lumps (which were confirmed as fatty cysts), he's in very good condition coat-wise although when we take him back to discuss the arthritis, I'll mention the hypothyroidism to her and see what she thinks. At the time, the vet didn't think it would be worth setting him on anything for the joints, although he has developed more noticeable difficulty in the last month or so.

You're right about the pain tolerance. Whilst the Setter screamed bloody murder if you so much as picked up the grooming scissors, Merlin would happily endure lakes of fire if it meant he'd get his ball from the other side. We ARE looking into hydrotherapy for him as he loves water and I do think he'll get a massive mental boost from it, as well as a physical one.

@Rascal: Thanks Rascal, we'll definitely look into this. We've been looking into supplements for him, but have been unsure as to which to use/try. I know what you mean about the double-edged sword. Even when he's 'good' we try to make sure he's not going too silly, but it's a Catch 22. Do you inhibit the good days to control the bad, or enjoy the good days whilst you have them? Either way you can't win xD
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I second the swimming / hydrotherapy suggested by Vicky. It's low impact so will support his joints whilst still giving him a intensive workout.
Quick google search gave me a new hydrotherapy centre thats nr Bristol: http://www.bchca.com/BCHC.htm
There is also one at Bath.
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I have been in an almost identical situation with my 13 year old springer, he went to live with my dad and his partner for a year in a pub and, unsurprsingly came back very fat- 27kgs which was WAY too much for him. joint aid and a daily dose of metacam for his achy joints have made SUCH a difference to his quality of life (as has losing 7kgs of weight!)- when I first had him back I swum him a lot, is there a river or something you can take him to if not a hydrotherapy pool? Now I just let him do his own thing and up his metacam (vet sanctioned, don't try this at home kids etc) if he's had a hectic day. I know its not ideal, but at his age I'm not going to worry about his liver. I'm quite lucky though that despite being deaf he doesn't bugger off- are you sure your oldie can hear you when he buggers off in the woods, or has he always been a bog-offer? I'd recommend a long line just in case, and maybe some more interactive 'find the tennis ball' type games? Anyway, he sounds lovely, may he stay with you for a good while yet! (and sorry about the wall of text, I'm on my phone and it doesn't understand paragraphs!)
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I well remember having to use a long line on my 13yr old Springer x lab just to keep him safe.

He had got to the stage of being deaf, partly sighted and arthritic and if off lead would just waunder off doing his own thing without a care in the world. The final straw came one summer day when we took him down to the river where he loved paddling in the water. We called him to come out, his head went up and off he went at a fast trot in totally the wrong direction, heading downstream towards the weir! Had to send my teenage son in to retrieve him who wasn't at all impressed with having to walk home soaked. I do believe my old dog was slightly senile which didn't help matters either. :)
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Post by DesO'Neile »

You can make this as complicated or as easy as you wish.

The easiest bit is the weight. Work out how much the dog is being given every day and reduce it by 20%. This isn't exactly a "loose weight or die" situation but the chances are that if you can get the dog a bit leaner it will live longer and have a better quality of life so get the rest of the household on board.

At 13 any dog deserves his day in the sun but by paying a bit of attention while out walking you can determine what the dog's exercise tollerance level is and if say it's thirty minutes you walk him in one direction for fifteen minutes and then back home. If some days he doesn't want to go for a walk don't force him but if some day he wants a longer walk give him a bit more. The chances are that you will only know if the dog has had too much the next day so you could keep a note on the calender of how long/far the walk was, at least until you get your head round what he can put up with.

I have used Cortaflex to good effect on an older injured dog but it is expensive.
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