American Cocker retrieving

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Re: American Cocker retrieving

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I'm already wearing them! :lol:
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Re: American Cocker retrieving

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pam wrote: he was also handled onto it with a left hand "back" as the wind was coming from the right and pushing the scent cone away from him...
So I'm assuming you knew where the dummy was.......

Why did you allow your dog on the initial cast to hunt up wind out of sight? Why did you not correct it on the out run, as you did when it returned into sight?
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Re: American Cocker retrieving

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pam wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEPyqTNIfMA
this is a clip taken today of my show bred american cocker who as you can see here is capable of working in the field he has been shown at crufts and various other championship shows all over the country winning best of breed and various classes he is now ready to work his first shooting season starting next Thursday!... I have been training for this for the last 18 months and he is now ready. There are many people who doubt very much that the american cocker is capable of a full days work but let me reasure you that this is not the case... hope you can see and enjoy my clip :-D
No doubt here. The breed is capable if giving a chance, though on this side of the pond very few want to get there hands dirty, so to speak.
The vid is of CH Keeper SH ( full registered name not know by me) Own by Mrs Nancy Gallant. A noted breed judge here in the states.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ummIHazlaaI

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Re: American Cocker retrieving

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Gundogguy I was going to ask on the other forum if that video was an American cocker haha
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Re: American Cocker retrieving

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PERCE wrote:
pam wrote: he was also handled onto it with a left hand "back" as the wind was coming from the right and pushing the scent cone away from him...
So I'm assuming you knew where the dummy was.......

Why did you allow your dog on the initial cast to hunt up wind out of sight? Why did you not correct it on the out run, as you did when it returned into sight?


Hi giving that I am new to all this and all the jargon that goes with it I will try to answer your question to the best of my ability.... A "blind" retreive to my knowledge means that You the handler knows where the object lies but the dog does NOT.. so in answer to you first question yes i knew the fall area

I cast my dog out and he took the line I gave him, correctly so... I did not need to correct it as he did no wrong he went straight to the fall area but failed to find in when he came back into sight I stopped him and put him back to the fall area where he then retreived the dummy.... Hope that makes it clearer for you?
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Re: American Cocker retrieving

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Gundogguy wrote:
pam wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEPyqTNIfMA
this is a clip taken today of my show bred american cocker who as you can see here is capable of working in the field he has been shown at crufts and various other championship shows all over the country winning best of breed and various classes he is now ready to work his first shooting season starting next Thursday!... I have been training for this for the last 18 months and he is now ready. There are many people who doubt very much that the american cocker is capable of a full days work but let me reasure you that this is not the case... hope you can see and enjoy my clip :-D
No doubt here. The breed is capable if giving a chance, though on this side of the pond very few want to get there hands dirty, so to speak.
The vid is of CH Keeper SH ( full registered name not know by me) Own by Mrs Nancy Gallant. A noted breed judge here in the states.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ummIHazlaaI

Cheers
HS
Brilliant wee clip thanks not many people wanting to get their hands dirty on this side of the pond either :( which is a shame
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Re: American Cocker retrieving

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Cynic wrote:
Strathcraig wrote:Pam, lets see that dog hunt ;) heard somewhere that he "goes like a bat out of hell"?
Strathcraig

I've yet to see a dog hunting in cover........because it's in cover....

Enlighten us though show us your dog/dogs hunting in cover!!!!!!!!
You sir, are a roaster of epic proportions. My dogs are Labradors, so whether they do or do not hunt cover is neither here nor there. It does however matter for a hunting and flushing breed.
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Re: American Cocker retrieving

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he means how the hell can you see the dog when Its in thick cover lol
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Re: American Cocker retrieving

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pam wrote:
PERCE wrote:
pam wrote: he was also handled onto it with a left hand "back" as the wind was coming from the right and pushing the scent cone away from him...
So I'm assuming you knew where the dummy was.......

Why did you allow your dog on the initial cast to hunt up wind out of sight? Why did you not correct it on the out run, as you did when it returned into sight?


Hi giving that I am new to all this and all the jargon that goes with it I will try to answer your question to the best of my ability.... A "blind" retreive to my knowledge means that You the handler knows where the object lies but the dog does NOT.. so in answer to you first question yes i knew the fall area

I cast my dog out and he took the line I gave him, correctly so... I did not need to correct it as he did no wrong he went straight to the fall area but failed to find in when he came back into sight I stopped him and put him back to the fall area where he then retreived the dummy.... Hope that makes it clearer for you?
If the dog went to the correct fall area the first time why did it reappear without the dummy? Why did you then stop it & send it left to a different area?
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Re: American Cocker retrieving

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At 0:07 the dog came off it's line to avoid some bushes so consequently it verged off to the right.
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