Young lab being not very sociable on shoot

[NikkiD]

My Toller is fine with other dogs as long as they dont get into his face. We had one incident on a shoot where an undisciplined "pet" dog was allowed to harass him for 3 drives and walking between drives until eventually he got decked. I havent been back since...... imo the other dog was at fault although cue much whining and complaining from the stupid biach who brought it along.......... and on another shoot there is a big nosy lab that has been told off a few times although his owner agrees with me that his dog is in the wrong..... I dont see him doing enough to keep a distance between the two so I may not take this particular dog there again.....

[coco]

It would also be interesting to hear any views on this situation from folks who have friendly dogs - would they appreciate being verbally informed by the owners before their dogs experience a growl/snap? Or is this all part of the dogs communication and learning process?

Does it make a difference on how the owner is liked ? Might sound like a daft comment but have seen some people criticised in areas other than the one that they may have annoyed someone in.

[Tarimoor]

My flatcoat got bitten, completely unprovoked, by a Labrador dog that has had a pop at a number of the dogs on the shoot. It was when we were all piled in the van being driven round for another drive. The owner quickly got hold of him, and Rhuna was none the worse physically, but can't stand going in the van, and now hates it even more. Fair enough I thought, just don't try it with my other bitch as she can't stand stroppy dogs.

At lunch time, I let the other three out, and kept two of them on lead, including the bitch who doesn't like bad mannered dogs. Sure enough, the Labrador dog came bowling round the corner, said hello, and then had a pop at her. He got the surprise of his life!

[Judy]

And its always those owners who get on the truck first, if they waited until everyone else was loaded up their dog wouldn't pop at anything, in fact it probably wouldn't want to get on, they are mostly nervy dogs protecting "their" space. Shame the owners don't get a grip on the problem.

A lot of the dogs which rush up to others on shoots are not "just being friendly" they are rude, badly trained, often over sexed and their owners don't give a monkeys. I got a ticking off once for "kicking" someone else's dog, I was in the trailer on my own, sandwich in one hand, drink in the other, dog sitting quietly beside me, Springer rushes in mounts my dog, I shove him off with the flat of my foot just as the owner arrived. He goes around winging to all and sundry instead of asking wtf was going on. It annoyed me a tad as he is the guy who uses e-collars to stop his dogs running in, nice hearing a dog yelp in the middle of a drive. He also isn't above taking a swing at other people's dogs with his stick.

I was accused of having a snappy dog after she retaliated cos she was fed up with a cold wet nose up her arras, I turned to the bloke and said "if you'd just shoved your nose up my arras you'd have got a lot more than a snap", caused much laughter and defused the situation.

Shoots can be strange places!

[Bryn]

Haven't had a problem with Bryn on shoots but a Boxer he's actually friendly with bounced him without warning a couple of weeks ago and got a right telling off, he also put a Sharpei in its place a while ago. My feeling is that if he goes and annoys another dog and gets put in his place that's fine and vice-versa.

[Tarimoor]

This is something I've been very keen to avoid, ie letting my dogs be a nuisance to other people and dogs. Indie and Rhuna, I can leave to themselves, Zasa is very bouncy and has no spatial awareness, she's getting used to it, and I do let her off lead part of the time, but I try not to let her be a nuisance. And then Tau, who really doesn't give a hoot about other dogs and doesn't like them running in at her, so I keep her on lead as it can be a bit of a melee of dogs running around at lunch time, some polite, some not.

[NikkiD]

It would also be interesting to hear any views on this situation from folks who have friendly dogs - would they appreciate being verbally informed by the owners before their dogs experience a growl/snap? Or is this all part of the dogs communication and learning process?

Does it make a difference on how the owner is liked ? Might sound like a daft comment but have seen some people criticised in areas other than the one that they may have annoyed someone in.

Good question. The lab I referred to earlier is a PITA with my Springer but Logan tolerates it, although I can see it pizzes him off....... the first time I took the Toller I a)warned the other owner that THIS particual dog would not tolerate the same behaviour as my other dog and b) I travel in the 4x4 between drives rather than get on the beaters trailer as I am aware that the Ginger Ninja would not cope well with such close proximity to other dogs. Other than this one particular PITA dog,this shoot is ideal for a dog who is not as sociable as he could/should be (Rescue dog)

Yes it does make a difference if the owner is liked or not........ I have had a dog made a scapegoat of over a faaaaaaamily dispute........

[coco]

, I turned to the bloke and said "if you'd just shoved your nose up my arras you'd have got a lot more than a snap", caused much laughter and defused the situation.

Shoots can be strange places!

Thats so funny! but as I'm the only female on our shoot, and I'm not sure what response that might get. Worryingly there's a few who might see that as an invitation, regardless of my retaliation bite!

[Naj]

I have heard that Judy's bark is worse than her bite ...

[Judy]

I have heard that Judy's bark is worse than her bite ...

Musta been a bloke told ya that cos its wrong.

Coco, I was the only female on that shoot...