back to basics

[guns and gossip]

Hi all,
So we have found a new gundog trainer for Oscar and turns out he's not as far on as we had been made to think. So we are now going back to basics with everything. One of his main issues is jumping up so does anyone have any advice on how to stop this.
Thank you.

[Stihl 090]

Hi all,
So we have found a new gundog trainer for Oscar and turns out he's not as far on as we had been made to think. So we are now going back to basics with everything. One of his main issues is jumping up so does anyone have any advice on how to stop this.
Thank you.

what did the trainer say? if they could not provide the answer time to find another.

when he jumps up, step back each time so his paws do not touch you and ignore him (totally). or the best option is to bring your knee up as he jumps. they learn a lot quicker. a well tried and tested method over the years!

however, you will need to read your dog. is he doing it for confidence?
my boy does, and i tried knocking jumping up out of him a few times but it badly affected his retrieving. so i was left with a choice... he still jumps up

[guns and gossip]

We actually forgot to ask about that because we were been given that much info on improving all of his basic commands.
It's an excited thing as he does it when he is running over to you when you call him back, it's becoming an issue now as we are back to basic recall so when he comes back he wants to jump up on us.

Also he does it when we meet strangers and they always let him even when we pull him away, people just let him do it.

[Stihl 090]

We actually forgot to ask about that because we were been given that much info on improving all of his basic commands.
It's an excited thing as he does it when he is running over to you when you call him back, it's becoming an issue now as we are back to basic recall so when he comes back he wants to jump up on us.

then my above post is likely to apply to this situation, or certainly how i would deal with it and a firm NO. also make no fuss of him, stand up straight hand in pockets. and or blow the sit whistle if you got that far. and no fussing either until its right. i am sure others will chime in with a variant on this theme.

Also he does it when we meet strangers and they always let him even when we pull him away, people just let him do it.

then you either have to walk further away from them so he cannot jump up, and or ask them not to touch him. a sharp yank on the lead and a brisk walk in the opposite direction, a firm NO at the same time will also help.

[Naj]

Harsh methods always carry the risk of unintended & unwanted consequences, as Stihl has learnt. If G&G doesn't want the dog to jump up then teach it an alternative behaviour when it comes in or greets you or anybody else. The jumping up is now a trained behaviour that is long established & so will take quite a bit of effort to train out whatever method you use, and it seems a bit unfair to punish a dog for a behaviour that you have inadvertently taught it. There are other ways to retrain the dog using gentler methods & without punishment, just do a search and any pet/obedience training site will cover it in depth. Turning away/ignoring it plus praise/reward when he has all four feet on the ground will provide some success but is more effective with a young pup when starting from scratch. Kneeing the dog in the chest & the other aversive methods are all effective & there should be no reason to put the dog off retrieving if done correctly.

Naj

[Stihl 090]

The dog jumping up and his very soft breeeding was why we kept him. Originally he was going part trained but as he was so soft another trainer would of likely seen him as disobident and naughty rather than a very very soft dog.
So we kept him. He will hopefully b on the trials circuit this year And is doing very well.
But as Naj and i have said, no one action will suit all dogs. Reading your dog is the art of succesfull training and making your decisions based on this. Whilst many of us havd been training a long time its hard sometimes to get things accross in posts, ezpecially when dogs and handlers cant be seen and asssed.
Traini g your first dog u learn so much, that will then help emensely with the next.

Good luck!

[Strathcraig]

Who did you go to Lauren?

[Alice]

I don't discourage jumping up...but then I do have spaniels. I worry that if I do, or accidentally do so too harshly, I will upset the dog wanting to come in to me with a retreive?

Was it oor Wullie who met Peter Jones at a trial and was amused to see that his cockers perpetually had two feet on the ground, two feet on him?

[Naj]

I used to like my spaniels to jump up on me, & then I got a GSP!

[Alice]

I used to like my spaniels to jump up on me, & then I got a GSP!

thats why I mentioned what breed I had- I might think very differently if they reached above waist-level!