I had blood samples taken from two b&w springers and the vet checked their microchip details before taking the blood and recorded these along with KC reg etc when sending of the specimens to avoid confusion but if you really are out to commit fraud it is always possible to find some way around it.Judy wrote:Looks like we need to start another thread re general testing! How long has the vet had to do the swabs? Not that it makes it any more accurate, I'm certain most at my vets wouldn't know which of the two black and whites was which if I had any desire to frig results.
AMS in cockers.
Re: AMS in cockers.
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We were probably just a bit over concerned about it getting right, the vet and i.Amberquest wrote:DNA is DNA. If you can ensure there is no cross contamination on the swab then it's as good as the blood
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Looks like the KC have added AMS to their list of DNA tests. No mention of it being added as a mandatory test for the Assured Breeders Scheme though. But perhaps someone who knows more about the inner workings of the KC can extrapolate whether this press release is a way of saying it is being added as an ABS must? (Note: it's not yet been added to the page on the KC website: http://www.thekennelclub.org.uk/service ... px?id=2052)
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The Kennel Club has approved a new official DNA testing scheme for Acral Mutilation Syndrome (AMS) in Cocker Spaniels, following consultation with the Health Coordinator on behalf of the breed clubs.
This test is offered by Antagene (www.antagene.com) and further details can be obtained directly from them. As the Kennel Club does not have an agreement in place for the direct receipt of results from this laboratory, results can only currently be recorded upon owner submission.
Caroline Kisko, Kennel Club Secretary, said: “The Kennel Club is constantly reviewing DNA testing schemes in conjunction with breed clubs to ensure that breeders are able to continue breeding healthy dogs.
“We are pleased to be announcing this new DNA test for Cocker Spaniels, which will help breeders make informed decisions when it comes to breeding, enable potential puppy buyers to be aware of issues which could affect their chosen breed, and ultimately protect and maintain the health of the breed.
“The Kennel Club continues to work alongside breed clubs and breed health coordinators, in a collaborative effort to improve the health of pedigree dogs. We are happy to accommodate a club's request to add a new DNA test to its lists and would normally need a formal request from the breed's health coordinator or a majority request from the breed clubs.”
Test results will be added to the dog’s registration details which will trigger the publication of the result in the next available Breed Records Supplement. The result will appear on any new registration certificate issued for the dog and on the registration certificates of any future progeny of the dog, and also on the Health Test Results Finder on the Kennel Club website. Results for dogs already tested can also be recorded, but owners will need to submit copies of the DNA certificates themselves.
If the owner includes the original registration certificate for the dog (not a copy) then a new registration certificate will be issued, with the DNA result on it, free of charge. Please send any DNA test certificates to Health & Breeder Services, The Kennel Club, Clarges Street, London, W1J 8AB or scan and email copies of the certificates to hbs@thekennelclub.org.uk.
ENDS
28th January 2016
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The Kennel Club has approved a new official DNA testing scheme for Acral Mutilation Syndrome (AMS) in Cocker Spaniels, following consultation with the Health Coordinator on behalf of the breed clubs.
This test is offered by Antagene (www.antagene.com) and further details can be obtained directly from them. As the Kennel Club does not have an agreement in place for the direct receipt of results from this laboratory, results can only currently be recorded upon owner submission.
Caroline Kisko, Kennel Club Secretary, said: “The Kennel Club is constantly reviewing DNA testing schemes in conjunction with breed clubs to ensure that breeders are able to continue breeding healthy dogs.
“We are pleased to be announcing this new DNA test for Cocker Spaniels, which will help breeders make informed decisions when it comes to breeding, enable potential puppy buyers to be aware of issues which could affect their chosen breed, and ultimately protect and maintain the health of the breed.
“The Kennel Club continues to work alongside breed clubs and breed health coordinators, in a collaborative effort to improve the health of pedigree dogs. We are happy to accommodate a club's request to add a new DNA test to its lists and would normally need a formal request from the breed's health coordinator or a majority request from the breed clubs.”
Test results will be added to the dog’s registration details which will trigger the publication of the result in the next available Breed Records Supplement. The result will appear on any new registration certificate issued for the dog and on the registration certificates of any future progeny of the dog, and also on the Health Test Results Finder on the Kennel Club website. Results for dogs already tested can also be recorded, but owners will need to submit copies of the DNA certificates themselves.
If the owner includes the original registration certificate for the dog (not a copy) then a new registration certificate will be issued, with the DNA result on it, free of charge. Please send any DNA test certificates to Health & Breeder Services, The Kennel Club, Clarges Street, London, W1J 8AB or scan and email copies of the certificates to hbs@thekennelclub.org.uk.
ENDS
28th January 2016
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Re: AMS in cockers.
I hope anyone else using Antagene are having more success than i am.Placed an order for the test/sampling kit on the 13/01.2016.Got the confirmation email from them,still no sampling kit,despite three emails and an unanswered phone call.Even if it takes this long ,i would have thought my email requests could have been replied too.I ll just keep trying to contact them.
Anyone else having this trouble.
Anyone else having this trouble.
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Ive just ordered mine this morning, I'll keep you updated
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Have to say Antagene communication skills are not the best but I didn't have any problems with getting test kits. Perhaps they're on overload with AMS test requests.
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my samples arrived in the post today. ordered them 3 days ago. wont be home for another few days due to weather, but will be doing them next week hopefully.
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The sampling kit came today.The order was confirmed on the 13th,it was posted on the 26th,so once posted it was pretty quick.
Hope the delay was because there as been a demand for them.
Hope the delay was because there as been a demand for them.
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Well credit where its due to the KC, I emailed a cert to them yesterday - just received confirmation its been added, awaiting another result from Antagene.
Do what you always do - get what you always get.
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I emailed certificates to the KC last Saturday and still not been added.