Stopping whining?

[pejay]

Hi all,
Have any of you experienced, knowledgeable people found a way to stop whining? Ebony is fine at normally but whines at gundog training sessions when it's not her turn, while she is waiting and another dog working she keeps whinging as she gets so wound up and over excited. Any thoughts? Thanks. PJ

[trekmoor]

Sorry mate, I have never found a way that consistently and for all time stops a natural whiner from whining.
I wish you the best of luck in trying to stop the whine but I am at least 90% sure it will come back at some point in the future.
If this were my dog I'd continue to take her to the classes but I'd give her nothing at all to do......no hunting and no retrieving especially. Once she became bored enough to cease to whine completely I'd give her one retrieve then stop at that for that training session.
I might try that but I'd be surprised if it worked as a permanent cure.

Wullie

[Alice]

Sorry mate, I have never found a way that consistently and for all time stops a natural whiner from whining.
I wish you the best of luck in trying to stop the whine but I am at least 90% sure it will come back at some point in the future.
If this were my dog I'd continue to take her to the classes but I'd give her nothing at all to do......no hunting and no retrieving especially. Once she became bored enough to cease to whine completely I'd give her one retrieve then stop at that for that training session.
I might try that but I'd be surprised if it worked as a permanent cure.

Wullie

wot he said. Whinging is the devil's own job to un-do once it's started I'm afraid. I would also keep pup WELL away from her when she does it, or she'll be off too. Sorry not to be more positive!

[newf]

Agree with everything advised. My only addition would be to have the dog wait for everything else to, i.e. food, exiting, play, etc. to achieve all round patience.

[dogperson]

This sounds like my bitch who is now three, she whined when waiting for her turn, eventually resorted to just moving her slightly or in a circle and it faded and I haven't heard her since - maybe I was just lucky but I would say don't despair.

[pejay]

This sounds like my bitch who is now three, she whined when waiting for her turn, eventually resorted to just moving her slightly or in a circle and it faded and I haven't heard her since - maybe I was just lucky but I would say don't despair.

Thanks for this, gives me hope, she never whines elsewhere and has been made to wait for everything since puppyhood and she does quieten when moved or continually fussed so hopefully I can break her of it.

[Bruneval3]

I understand your frustration/concerns, I have a 3 yr old Lab bitch who is perfect in all else apart from the "squeaking", which is because she is so frustrated and wants to get working!! I don't know if I caused this or it is genetic, I am willing to accept the blame as she is my first attempt at training a Gundog. What would I do different next time, mmmh to be honest I don't really know. Hope all goes ok.

[Cornish Cutie]

I understand your frustration/concerns, I have a 3 yr old Lab bitch who is perfect in all else apart from the "squeaking", which is because she is so frustrated and wants to get working!! I don't know if I caused this or it is genetic, I am willing to accept the blame as she is my first attempt at training a Gundog. What would I do different next time, mmmh to be honest I don't really know. Hope all goes ok.

Ditto!

So, what do you do with them if they develop a squeak and it's pointless competing due to guaranteed elimination?

[trekmoor]

You can keep the dog and work it anywhere that the whine will not annoy others or start other dogs off. You can keep it as "only" a pet or you can sell it or give it away as a pet.

Wullie

[Cass]

Not impossible just need to stick with it. Going out with the group might mean your dog doesn't work the next 3 months - just watches. Just remember that you are training even though she's just sitting there. stick with it.