power bars

[Cambusvale]

And if humans ate rabbit non stop they would die your point SP is what exactly????

[Nickheref]

That sounds to me like dehydration Judy. That is a real issue. Flagging is another one entirely.

And yes, I think breeding has lot to do with it. Trial breeding and trialing in general does not require an enormous amount of stamina.

Maybe, but she had free access to water at the vehicles and its a wet shoot anyway (it was a duck day after all! ). Not sure what it was other than stress / over heating but she has been fine ever since.

Was it very cold water? The only times I have seen dogs collapse/give up completely was when shooting a marsh where it is half water/half reeds and physically very demanding as the dogs are often part swimming/ part running for long periods, two dogs (one a cocker, the other a small springer) had to be carried off when we did it on a very cold day but oddly the water was not completely frozen, never before or since but I think they were just exhausted and the cold sapped their strength. Mine were fine but were a bit fitter, stronger and bigger bodied as were the other dogs which were ok.

[crackerd]

And if humans ate rabbit non stop they would die your point SP is what exactly????

Ally, SP is SPot-on here - chocolate contains theobromine and (worse) caffeine, both toxic to dogs. I sneak mine a teeny bit (as in microgram or two) of Cadbury's from time to time, but never in any quantity that might harm them. Again, it's the caffeine specifically to watch out for in chocolate.

Also agree with him on the PowerBar business and their being extraneous for a gundog that's fit - Nestle Purina stopped distributing them in North America if I remember correctly just because they weren't selling as gundog owners wised up about something. The sugar conversion and hydration supplement by the way have been orchestrated here by handlers giving their bird dogs (pointers working long and hard distances) a squirt or two of a carbonated (but not caffeinated) soft drink called 7Up.

MG

[Springfield Pointers]

And if humans ate rabbit non stop they would die your point SP is what exactly????

Ally. My point was that people shouldn't be giving, nor be encouraged to give, chocolate to their dogs. I thought I made that point. Apologies if I wasn't clear.

[Naj]

Sounds like Judy's example was a case of a hot day and the dog getting lost in a field of maize and overheating. And Nick's example of working in cold water was the polar opposite. Small dogs are handicapped by their lack of body mass and will lose body heat quicker than a bigger dog with debilitating consequences. That's why neoprene jackets are a real asset rather than a gimmick for dogs doing a lot of cold weather water work. But these are extreme conditions. These dogs collapsing are doing so under normal conditions and aren't just catching their breath but need to be carried off and/or have glucose administered to revive them. Not normal.

Naj

[Dawnrazor]

And if humans ate rabbit non stop they would die your point SP is what exactly????

Ally. My point was that people shouldn't be giving, nor be encouraged to give, chocolate to their dogs. I thought I made that point. Apologies if I wasn't clear.

To be fair SP, there's very little chocolate in a Mars bar and what there is is very low quality, the more expensive, higher quality and high coco content is the most dangerous and potentially/probably lethal to dogs. I've used "bite size Mars bars" as wee boosters for dogs for years, terriers are fed one after working a fox for a long time with no ill effects. I still swear to the homemade lard/honey mix shown to by my old Headkeeper 30 odd years ago.

[Springfield Pointers]

DR. If people want to give their dogs confectionery in the belief that it makes them perform better. More power to them.

[kenny]

Fitness is usually the key. You can't feed a dog fit on the day by giving it a sugary snack. This is mostly why dogs collapse and need carrying.

My springer is fit trust me it's like a human working all day on an empty stomach are you trying to say she is sugar fit lol

[Springfield Pointers]

Fitness is usually the key. You can't feed a dog fit on the day by giving it a sugary snack. This is mostly why dogs collapse and need carrying.

My springer is fit trust me it's like a human working all day on an empty stomach are you trying to say she is sugar fit lol

I'm afraid you'll need to flesh out your post a little if you want me to understand it.

[Judy]

Fitness is usually the key. You can't feed a dog fit on the day by giving it a sugary snack. This is mostly why dogs collapse and need carrying.

My springer is fit trust me it's like a human working all day on an empty stomach are you trying to say she is sugar fit lol

I am by the end of a day's picking up, don't know what I'd do without Mint Crumbles!