Jumping up issues. Help, please!

[Cass]

A knee to the chest does wonders for a dog that jumps up

[Springfield Pointers]

A knee to the chest does wonders for a dog that jumps up

Cass has the right insight, but will possibly be misunderstood by the anthropomorphic.

Have you tried simply saying "no" and indicating that you are unhappy?

This is the simplest of problems to get around.

[Naj]

I agree. Reward for not jumping up &/or train a conflicting behaviour, like sit.

[newf]

A knee to the chest does wonders for a dog that jumps up

As Cass advises if you are the victim or a firm bonk on the head with a rolled up towel if others are prey. Out for a walk, similarly a firm sideways jerk on the lead will send the message. And like all good trainers, after the punishment, reward the dog in having all four feet on the ground. IMO, just saying ‘no’ accompanied with some displeasure will not work for most dogs and neither will ignoring the behavior and rewarding for a sit. The latter, does nothing to actually stop the behavior; distraction is not teaching, it is distraction. This is a problem behavior similar to biting that does not have time or tolerance on its side because of the potential risks to children and the elderly.

[Springfield Pointers]

A knee to the chest does wonders for a dog that jumps up

As Cass advises if you are the victim or a firm bonk on the head with a rolled up towel if others are prey. Out for a walk, similarly a firm sideways jerk on the lead will send the message. And like all good trainers, after the punishment, reward the dog in having all four feet on the ground. IMO, just saying ‘no’ accompanied with some displeasure will not work for most dogs and neither will ignoring the behavior and rewarding for a sit. The latter, does nothing to actually stop the behavior; distraction is not teaching, it is distraction. This is a problem behavior similar to biting that does not have time or tolerance on its side because of the potential risks to children and the elderly.

Rolled up papers are fine for housepets. Use them at your peril with young gundogs.

[Naj]

If you read the thread, Newf, the op fixed it without resorting to drastic punishment. A sit command and a chest rub did the trick. Physical punishments obviously work if you enjoy using them, I used them all the time once, but don’t assume that they’re the only way. There are more subtle ways to punish unwanted behaviours without getting all physical. And things like puppy biting are just a passing phase so redirecting a pup to a chew toy is a proven remedy, coupled with the occasional short time out when a pup is too hyper to have reasonable self control. I manage to train my pups not to bite and jump up without resorting to bonking them on the head, kneeing or jerking them about so if I can do it anyone can.

Naj

[newf]

A knee to the chest does wonders for a dog that jumps up

As Cass advises if you are the victim or a firm bonk on the head with a rolled up towel if others are prey. Out for a walk, similarly a firm sideways jerk on the lead will send the message. And like all good trainers, after the punishment, reward the dog in having all four feet on the ground. IMO, just saying ‘no’ accompanied with some displeasure will not work for most dogs and neither will ignoring the behavior and rewarding for a sit. The latter, does nothing to actually stop the behavior; distraction is not teaching, it is distraction. This is a problem behavior similar to biting that does not have time or tolerance on its side because of the potential risks to children and the elderly.

Rolled up papers are fine for housepets. Use them at your peril with young gundogs.

A regular sized towel rolled tight and held together with no 8 elastic bands on the head won't be ignored; nor will it physically hurt the dog but you will get his attention quickly.

[Springfield Pointers]

A regular sized towel rolled tight and held together with no 8 elastic bands on the head won't be ignored; nor will it physically hurt the dog but you will get his attention quickly.

It has nothing to do with "hurt" mate. If you want to train a bird dog (for shooting over) don't be using rolled up papers to batter them with - it's bad advice.

[Judy]

Interesting that nobody mentions the easiest way, take a step backwards so that the dog doesn't connect, then just walk away ignoring it. Although I do confess I have used all the above methods at different times.

[newf]

If you read the thread, Newf, the op fixed it without resorting to drastic punishment. A sit command and a chest rub did the trick. Physical punishments obviously work if you enjoy using them, I used them all the time once, but don’t assume that they’re the only way. There are more subtle ways to punish unwanted behaviours without getting all physical. And things like puppy biting are just a passing phase so redirecting a pup to a chew toy is a proven remedy, coupled with the occasional short time out when a pup is too hyper to have reasonable self control. I manage to train my pups not to bite and jump up without resorting to bonking them on the head, kneeing or jerking them about so if I can do it anyone can.
H
Naj

Naj, I certainly don't enjoy using punishments and for information I use them sparingly. Praise, fun and food are the mainstays in teaching most everything new in gundog training, however instinctive behaviors such as biting, jumping and chasing are better meet with punishments if one wishes to put a stop on them. You can make me out to be a demon all you want but I enjoy my dogs and they enjoy me, you don't have a monopoly on pet happiness just because your expectations for a trained dog is low. You've mentioned before in previous posts about being happy with a dog wandering back on recall and hovering around on stay; all fine and dandy if it suits you and further to that, infuses you with more high ground morality.