Pick of the litter and breeding rights

[Laberman]

I was wondering what people usually do when the stud owner wants pick of the litter in regards to breeding rights? Should the stud owner be required to pay for breeding rights or do those rights typically come included when they take the pick of the litter?

[Mikew]

I believe it is a contract, American Kennel club. I personally as owner of the bitch...I own the litter and I register all pups with my kennel name, Pennwoods , American kennel club. Mike

[Mikew]

I personally wouldn't have a problem with the stud owner having his pick...but that is all there is to it. Mike

[Mikew]

Wouldn't he get the breeding rights , on his own, and this would have nothing to do with you..mike

[Mikew]

He has nothing to do with the litter you raised..you have the studs register name and registration number in order to register the litter and in your name.

[Judy]

I was wondering what people usually do when the stud owner wants pick of the litter in regards to breeding rights? Should the stud owner be required to pay for breeding rights or do those rights typically come included when they take the pick of the litter?

I think you, as the breeder, can put on the same breeding restrictions as you have for the rest of the litter, I would.

I've always thought it unfair that you, perhaps, pay £500 stud fee or the stud dog owners has pick of litter - a pup which could be worth possibly three or more times that amount. Easy for a stud owner to take a pup then simply sell it on at a tidy profit.

[Naj]

I’ve heard of breeding restrictions being put on pups, where you can’t breed before health checking etc. Where breeders have been unreasonable in their demands the KC can overturn these. Never heard of it on pick of litter in lieu of stud fee. I guess that if you tried dictating terms to the stud dog owner you’re not likely to get the stud dog that you wanted.

[Mikew]

This is how I understand it. Once the new owner registers his new pup with the kennel club in his name, new owner owns and has breeding right to his new pup...Only if there is a breeding contract with breeding restrictions before or with the sale of the pup is there an issue...I only seen this once..I never understood why in all honesty would a person want to control the decisions of someone else regarding their own dog...I would never have anything to do with this...mike

[Mikew]

I agree, regarding health issues..CPRA positive , subluxation patella congenital. It would be upsetting to find out your 6 month old Springer pup had a inherited health issue...we just try to be educated about it. Mike

[Nickheref]

I've always thought it unfair that you, perhaps, pay £500 stud fee or the stud dog owners has pick of litter - a pup which could be worth possibly three or more times that amount. Easy for a stud owner to take a pup then simply sell it on at a tidy profit.

I cannot see the difference between the breeder keeping the pup in lieu or selling it on. It is a pup gone either way and it is theirs to do what they want with and you know the situation before you start. I would be asking myself why someone wanted to put breeding restrictions on the litter, the argument about testing for inherited diseases doesn't seem to have too much credence as if the breeder and the owner of the stud have done their genetic tests on the dogs they are using for breeding you already have the answer and the potential issues should be known already. To be saying I don't do any testing but expect you to do so before you can breed from the pup I bred appears a bit hypocritical to me. The only other thing I suppose is hip dysplasia but if the parents have very good scores and the pups have such awful hips you couldn't breed from them wonder what is the point of testing as you appear to be saying "my dogs have brilliant hips but I have a reason to believe the pups won't". Is there something they are not telling me?

I wouldn't buy a pup with a breeding restriction on it even if the breeder says they will release it unless it was very clear and agreed out the outset what tests and what results would force the owner to release the restriction. Why have they put it on in the first place if they believe their stock is good - To enable them to make more money in the future? Surely if they think they are breeding quality animals they would want their genes out there for the benefit of the breed, not restricting them?