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paul spaniel wrote:guys it should not matter what the litter is, the thing here is the dam is at best a pet with a fancy pedigree, she prob had 4 diff homes before where she has now ended up and she now has a big fancy advertisement being bred to the dog of the moment and bitch pups are 650 quid, its just not right.

Not an unusual situation IMO. It happens. Stud dog might be a cracker.

Unfortunately that's the nature of the beast and what people do to make money and unless you know the background, some poor sods buy these pups on the back of their pedigrees. I've given away a few part or fully trained bitches in the past to friends as pets and kept their paperwork who I know won't breed just because I don't think they are good enough to breed from. Unless you spey a bitch before you sell it, there is always the potential this will happen. There's people in gundogs as a business to make money, there's people in gundogs as a hobby and there's breeders who want to improve the breed. Unfortunately, this will never change.

Springfield Pointers wrote:

paul spaniel wrote:guys it should not matter what the litter is, the thing here is the dam is at best a pet with a fancy pedigree, she prob had 4 diff homes before where she has now ended up and she now has a big fancy advertisement being bred to the dog of the moment and bitch pups are 650 quid, its just not right.

Not an unusual situation IMO. It happens. Stud dog might be a cracker.

so it should not matter if mum is useless, just use a good stud dog and u will have good pups ??

I have a friend who is adverting her very mediocre family pet of 3 years no training, no manners & full tailed nob off merchant as

Hard hunting excellently bred and fully trained but been left due to illness and wants £700

I could buy a a stunner both in breeding, background and looks for that money

Fools and their money springs to mind

paul spaniel wrote:guys it should not matter what the litter is, the thing here is the dam is at best a pet with a fancy pedigree, she prob had 4 diff homes before where she has now ended up and she now has a big fancy advertisement being bred to the dog of the moment and bitch pups are 650 quid, its just not right.

you cant start a thread like this thinking people arent going to try and find the litter you talking about

paul spaniel wrote:so it should not matter if mum is useless, just use a good stud dog and u will have good pups ??

Didn't say that. Said it happens, it also happens that people who don't know better may well buy the dog. A fair price is what someone is prepared to pay for it. This is exactly why you buy dogs from people who have a stake in the real issues a breeding plan with insight and a passion for the breed and it's future. If you don't like the dog don't buy it and steer away from it's progeny.

manorfarm wrote:

paul spaniel wrote:guys it should not matter what the litter is, the thing here is the dam is at best a pet with a fancy pedigree, she prob had 4 diff homes before where she has now ended up and she now has a big fancy advertisement being bred to the dog of the moment and bitch pups are 650 quid, its just not right.

you cant start a thread like this thinking people arent going to try and find the litter you talking about

look harder cause its out there

look harder cause its out there

If it aint right dont breed from it simple,bollocks to these red pedigrees.

Duncan wrote:If it aint right dont breed from it simple,bollocks to these red pedigrees.

exactly