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Re: American Cocker retrieving

Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 9:32 am
by lee-kinsman
That was superb! I would never have believed it if I hadn't seen the video. Well done, hope you do trial him and I hope you both do well.

Re: American Cocker retrieving

Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 10:06 am
by Qest12
crackerd wrote:Extraordinary for an American cocker - who's training that dog, Pam, and by what methods? Congratulations to all involved - very nice work! A/V trials are next, one would hope - surely an American cocker would be eligible?

MG
The man's voice sounds like Roberts from Polmaise Gundogs.

Edit: it is 'Polmaise'.

Re: American Cocker retrieving

Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 10:35 am
by Strathcraig
I remember seeing a picture of that wee dogs on Polmaise Facebook during Crufts week

Re: American Cocker retrieving

Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 10:43 am
by Cass
Nice work but i must confess that polmaise has already shown me that video as well as a couple more of gumbo. Good to see one working. Here there are virtually no English cockers they are all the American type and very. .. and I mean VERY unlikely to ever see one worked or hunted.

Re: American Cocker retrieving

Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 11:11 am
by pam
No you may have seen other videos of him Cass but not this one this was only taken yesterday :)

Re: American Cocker retrieving

Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 12:00 pm
by PLG
Isn't it great to be able to say "Nice work" without having to add "...for a show dog". It's just great work full stop! Hope my working cocker pup retrieves like that when she's older.

Re: American Cocker retrieving

Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 12:54 pm
by crackerd
I'd like to know more about the trainer and training methods used - would think that American cocker fanciers on this side could really capitalise from this person's expertise in helping them "regain" a working gundog breed.

MG

Re: American Cocker retrieving

Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 1:16 pm
by pam
Thank you all for all your kind words he is a very special guy to me indeed in answer to your question the answer is "I" train him.... "I" train him every time we go out the door and in the earier days even inside the house with things like presentation.."I" have taught him all he knows now.... the question should really have been who trains ME well that will be my Mentor, friend and a man a truley respect Robert Johnstone... Polmaise Gun dogs. As for the training methods used... just do what works...if its not working stop doing it... its not working :) I would LOVE for the work I have done with Gumbo to kick start American Cockers being a respected breed in the field...

Re: American Cocker retrieving

Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 3:10 pm
by James
pam wrote:Thank you all for all your kind words he is a very special guy to me indeed in answer to your question the answer is "I" train him.... "I" train him every time we go out the door and in the earier days even inside the house with things like presentation.."I" have taught him all he knows now.... the question should really have been who trains ME well that will be my Mentor, friend and a man a truley respect Robert Johnstone... Polmaise Gun dogs. As for the training methods used... just do what works...if its not working stop doing it... its not working :) I would LOVE for the work I have done with Gumbo to kick start American Cockers being a respected breed in the field...
Have you any videos of him hunting some cover?

Re: American Cocker retrieving

Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 3:15 pm
by Strathcraig
James wrote:
pam wrote:Thank you all for all your kind words he is a very special guy to me indeed in answer to your question the answer is "I" train him.... "I" train him every time we go out the door and in the earier days even inside the house with things like presentation.."I" have taught him all he knows now.... the question should really have been who trains ME well that will be my Mentor, friend and a man a truley respect Robert Johnstone... Polmaise Gun dogs. As for the training methods used... just do what works...if its not working stop doing it... its not working :) I would LOVE for the work I have done with Gumbo to kick start American Cockers being a respected breed in the field...
Have you any videos of him hunting some cover?
When I saw you were the last person to post I absolutely knew you were gonna ask that :clap: