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Re: Studs Ess
Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2015 4:45 pm
by EssGrouse
Ada C wrote:As a beginner, could you just elaborate for me on what you mean by 'alpha male'? and 'attitude'?
Also, by 'proven to produce', do you mean he has successfully sired pups or that a percentage of his offspring have proved themselves in competitions or otherwise?
Thanks
Hey up Ada,
Yes by alpha male I mean a bit of a buggar, hard headed, wouldn't back off from another dog in a run off.
And yes proven to produce as in having offspring on the trialling circuit winning.
Re: Studs Ess
Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2015 4:58 pm
by Sgurr
Think out of the box. Condor Green Tom - no Edwardiana, no Craighaar, no Rytex other than Rex way, way back.
Can he produce the goods - yes. To all your other questions - don't know.
Re: Studs Ess
Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2015 5:10 pm
by EssGrouse
I've shot over Flynn, he isn't an alpha male and doesn't add size to his progeny.
Cheers.
Re: Studs Ess
Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2015 5:13 pm
by beechessam
EssGrouse wrote:Ye i was avoiding spirit too Alice so not for me although i do rate Blu as i've trained with him.
I can only come up with the following.
FTCH Belvden Vatanan
FTCH Rothienvale Medlar of Edgegrove
FTCH Cleeburf Bramble - Not seen anything by him?
FTCH Hollydrive Kurt - but dubious because i heard he was a carrier for something!!
FTCH Spitfire Sortie - Not sure he will add size and power.
So why would you choose any of the above over Spirit or a number of other FTCH dogs?
Re: Studs Ess
Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2015 5:22 pm
by eastie
What about that clan Gregor of almanch, or something like that, that Malcolm Taylor has? Thrown some good stuff has it not? Alec counts also has a nice dog, Brett, I think he's called.
Re: Studs Ess
Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2015 5:26 pm
by beechessam
eastie wrote:What about that clan Gregor of almanch, or something like that, that Malcolm Taylor has? Thrown some good stuff has it not? Alec counts also has a nice dog, Brett, I think he's called.
It produced a Championship Winner so not a bad record! They say if you like a dog, go to the animal that produced it.
Re: Studs Ess
Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2015 5:41 pm
by Alice
EssGrouse wrote:I've shot over Flynn, he isn't an alpha male and doesn't add size to his progeny.
Cheers.
must admit I have a bit of a problem pinning down what this 'alpha male' quality you want in the dog really cashes out as. I know you like tough brutes (I remember the days of Hawk
) and I do too, to a point, but I don't really get what an 'alpha male' dog would be like?
Re: Studs Ess
Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2015 5:46 pm
by Ada C
Grand - many thanks for taking the time to explain.
Re: Studs Ess
Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2015 5:59 pm
by beechessam
I though Spirit was the definition of Alpha. Hard going fast powerful beast that passes those qualities on to his progeny in abundance.
Re: Studs Ess
Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2015 7:37 pm
by EssGrouse
Yes but not for me as I said Simon.