Feeding - Article...

[Springfield Pointers]

No it doesn't, but a dog food company claiming theirs helped dogs find more birds than dogs on similar foods is complete advertising BS.
On another point, is fitness more important than nutrition? I bet dogs on crap diets that work regularly have more stamina than dogs on top food than work intermittently.

The problem is I would argue it isnt possible to really prove any of them beyond a reason of doubt.

We cant do that with humans never mind our 4 legged animals!

Well, I think it pretty easy to prove. Dogs that are fed on good diets, with sensible consideration toward good nutrition and available energy conversion, perform better than dogs that aren't. I don't understand the hesitance in accepting this?

[Naj]

Precisely. And it does raise another issue. It’s not really clever or fair on the dogs to work them hard when only sustained on a maintenance diet.

Naj

[reidller]

But I don't see how anyone can claim that dog A found more birds than dog B because it ate a particular food. There's too many variables, including the individual dogs own ability at the time of experimenting.
I'm not arguing that a good diet is needed for the best performance, that's obvious. Just that I won't be blaming a missed bird on not feeding eukanuba to my dogs.

[Springfield Pointers]

And nobody is suggesting that.

[Rough_mut]

No it doesn't, but a dog food company claiming theirs helped dogs find more birds than dogs on similar foods is complete advertising BS.
On another point, is fitness more important than nutrition? I bet dogs on crap diets that work regularly have more stamina than dogs on top food than work intermittently.

The problem is I would argue it isnt possible to really prove any of them beyond a reason of doubt.

We cant do that with humans never mind our 4 legged animals!

Well, I think it pretty easy to prove. Dogs that are fed on good diets, with sensible consideration toward good nutrition and available energy conversion, perform better than dogs that aren't. I don't understand the hesitance in accepting this?

Firstly it's impossible to make a study that doesn't include 6 million other variables that could lead to a conclusion outcome.

Secondly performance of dogs vary from dog to dog regardless of feed.

Thirdly its impossible to quantify performance

Just a few from me

[reidller]

And nobody is suggesting that.

It was an interesting read anyway, thanks for sharing.

[Springfield Pointers]

The problem is I would argue it isnt possible to really prove any of them beyond a reason of doubt.

We cant do that with humans never mind our 4 legged animals!

Well, I think it pretty easy to prove. Dogs that are fed on good diets, with sensible consideration toward good nutrition and available energy conversion, perform better than dogs that aren't. I don't understand the hesitance in accepting this?

Firstly it's impossible to make a study that doesn't include 6 million other variables that could lead to a conclusion outcome.

Secondly performance of dogs vary from dog to dog regardless of feed.

Thirdly its impossible to quantify performance

Just a few from me

Let's agree to disagree. I have seen too many badly fed, good dogs fail to achieve. Studies, be damned - Let them get some practical experience.
... And by the way, I don't really like most commercial feeds, but I value common sense. The article was for reference and consideration, I'll think more carefully about the next one.

[Rough_mut]

Sp I dont think we need to disagree, I agree to what your saying but I think proving it beyond reasonable doubt hard to to do.

[Naj]

But I don't see how anyone can claim that dog A found more birds than dog B because it ate a particular food. There's too many variables, including the individual dogs own ability at the time of experimenting.
I'm not arguing that a good diet is needed for the best performance, that's obvious. Just that I won't be blaming a missed bird on not feeding eukanuba to my dogs.

I think you’re over complicating this. Two packs of dogs hunting over the same grounds during the same season but on two different diets and their handlers didn’t know which. Let’s assume they have a mix of comparable experience and fitness. All things being equal, if one group has a markedly higher tally of birds found over the other I’d say diet was a significant factor seeing that was the only measurable variable. Any other incidentals would balance themselves out over time.

Naj

[Nickheref]

Fear not we needn't worry as there was a bit on the news the other night about feeding dogs and cats insects to wean them off meat! I fear soon using any meat will become equivalent of a crime against humanity so it won't matter how many birds the dogs can find!!!