are you answering for 'cockerman', or yourself?arwesa wrote:sure, distance/location vs availability(competing comitments)/time available & how ready the dogs were e.g. seasons, stage of training etc.. Im naturally competitive so if there is something I can enter and do reasonably well I will
Do you shoot with a dog?
Re: Do you shoot with a dog?
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Re: Do you shoot with a dog?
myself ... didnt notice the quote, beer does that to you 
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As a handler, its impossible to make your dog perform better than it is, but very easy to make it perform far worse.
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Re: Do you shoot with a dog?
I'm a no.Polmaise wrote:The question is not "do you go shooting with a dog?", but rather "do you shoot for yourself with a dog?"!
It is my opinion,that more and more people get involved with gundogs,because they have a gundog breed?,rather than because of 'shooting'![]()
To help me promote/encourage people 'into the 'Art of shooting with Gundogs'?,I would like to know where we are 'Now', with the forum members,as a brief indication of the 'sport', nationwide.
If you are a 'Yes' then please reply and let me know the following:
1. Is it driven,rough/wildfowling etc?
2. What breed(s) of dogs do you work?
3. Would you say you were 'Experienced/Pro/Novice/beginner/'?
4. What overall factor would make or discourage you from entering an event such as the Polmaise Cup?
If you are a 'No' please say why you don't or haven't shot over/with your dog.
1.. will read up on shoots then answer question no 1 (but think it would be rough!!!)
2 a cocker
3..a novice
4 wouldn't know what I was doing as totally isolated from events/shoots/training clubs etc
Hope this helps
ali
Re: Do you shoot with a dog?
I do shoot with a gun, and my dog will always be with me when i have the gun with one exception and even then they may (and have been) called upon and that is when stalking with clients.
My dog needs top be able to:
SIt in a hide, pigeon duck goose crow shooting
Sit at the foot of a high seat, boar shooting and dear stalking
Ride on a boat and sit in the same foreshore duck and goose shooting
Walk behind when stalking
Walk in front when rough and boundary shooting
Sit at a peg when on a driven beaters day
and finally be steady in the beating line for the rest of the time,
Oh and really finally when a stalking client wounds a deer be able to blood trail and hold or bring me to a wounded or dead animal.
And I wonder why mine aren't as good some of the other dogs around!
I work at the moment a Sporting Lucas Terrier, I have a retired Golden Retriever and I am waiting to introduce a Chesapeake Bay Retriever.
I am experienced at having dogs never being without one since I was about ten years old, am I any good at training them? I think I improve with each one, so lets say I'm still learning.
I would not enter any competition with my dog after I entered a scurry years ago to give the dog a chance to cool off, the dog an ESS was entred into a double water retrieve and completed the scurry 15 seconds faster that the top dogs at the time and at the end about 5 seconds faster only to find that when we went back at the end of the event that as the dog he beat were all Labs there had been so much moaning they had to introduce a new class to keep them happy. Not my idea of any sport I'm afraid.
Now the needs of my dog are so personal I do not need to enter competitions to get an idea of how good they are. I am happy when out on flight at night i swing the gun at a high duck and shoot not sure if I've hit it and I look down and the dog has gone only to return some time later with a stone dead teal. Or to go out in the pitch dark an hour after a client has hit a deer put the dog on the point of shot and see the head switch on and after thirty or forty minutes of hunting have the dog lead me to a dead deer 300 metres away in six foot high maize that you would never have found. These are the rosettes I'll take any day. Also I have no idea of what the Polmaise Cup is or how to find out, sorry.
My dog needs top be able to:
SIt in a hide, pigeon duck goose crow shooting
Sit at the foot of a high seat, boar shooting and dear stalking
Ride on a boat and sit in the same foreshore duck and goose shooting
Walk behind when stalking
Walk in front when rough and boundary shooting
Sit at a peg when on a driven beaters day
and finally be steady in the beating line for the rest of the time,
Oh and really finally when a stalking client wounds a deer be able to blood trail and hold or bring me to a wounded or dead animal.
And I wonder why mine aren't as good some of the other dogs around!
I work at the moment a Sporting Lucas Terrier, I have a retired Golden Retriever and I am waiting to introduce a Chesapeake Bay Retriever.
I am experienced at having dogs never being without one since I was about ten years old, am I any good at training them? I think I improve with each one, so lets say I'm still learning.
I would not enter any competition with my dog after I entered a scurry years ago to give the dog a chance to cool off, the dog an ESS was entred into a double water retrieve and completed the scurry 15 seconds faster that the top dogs at the time and at the end about 5 seconds faster only to find that when we went back at the end of the event that as the dog he beat were all Labs there had been so much moaning they had to introduce a new class to keep them happy. Not my idea of any sport I'm afraid.
Now the needs of my dog are so personal I do not need to enter competitions to get an idea of how good they are. I am happy when out on flight at night i swing the gun at a high duck and shoot not sure if I've hit it and I look down and the dog has gone only to return some time later with a stone dead teal. Or to go out in the pitch dark an hour after a client has hit a deer put the dog on the point of shot and see the head switch on and after thirty or forty minutes of hunting have the dog lead me to a dead deer 300 metres away in six foot high maize that you would never have found. These are the rosettes I'll take any day. Also I have no idea of what the Polmaise Cup is or how to find out, sorry.
Re: Do you shoot with a dog?
1. Is it driven,rough/wildfowling etc? - Driven and Rough Shooting
2. What breed(s) of dogs do you work?- Springers, cockers and labs
3. Would you say you were 'Experienced/Pro/Novice/beginner/'? I would say I am fairly experienced
4. What overall factor would make or discourage you from entering an event such as the Polmaise Cup? - I am not going to comment
2. What breed(s) of dogs do you work?- Springers, cockers and labs
3. Would you say you were 'Experienced/Pro/Novice/beginner/'? I would say I am fairly experienced
4. What overall factor would make or discourage you from entering an event such as the Polmaise Cup? - I am not going to comment
Re: Do you shoot with a dog?
Have put a link in for you http://www.polmaisecup.co.uk/2010.htmbeltabout wrote:
Also I have no idea of what the Polmaise Cup is or how to find out, sorry.
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Re: Do you shoot with a dog?
i do alot of rough shooting over springers and cockers and wud happily enter the cup only for cost of getting there etc..
Re: Do you shoot with a dog?
I came to gun dog training because my husband shoots, but lacks the patience/time to train a dog.
The first dogs were trained by me, but worked and shot over by my husband.
Now the children are older, I have the time to go and pick up. This works well as Ash is still a bit hot and so needs to be handled rather than sitting on a peg!
The new pup will either be my husband's picking up dog, or mine depending on her intensity
The first dogs were trained by me, but worked and shot over by my husband.
Now the children are older, I have the time to go and pick up. This works well as Ash is still a bit hot and so needs to be handled rather than sitting on a peg!
The new pup will either be my husband's picking up dog, or mine depending on her intensity
TJ
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Re: Do you shoot with a dog?
My replies as Follows :-
1. Walked up Rough Shooting mainly with the odd Driven Day?
2. ESS all the way fo me?
3. 'Experienced but with a 10 year gap getting back into it'?
4. Age of my dogs at the moment?
1. Walked up Rough Shooting mainly with the odd Driven Day?
2. ESS all the way fo me?
3. 'Experienced but with a 10 year gap getting back into it'?
4. Age of my dogs at the moment?
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Re: Do you shoot with a dog?
1.RoughPolmaise wrote:The question is not "do you go shooting with a dog?", but rather "do you shoot for yourself with a dog?"!
It is my opinion,that more and more people get involved with gundogs,because they have a gundog breed?,rather than because of 'shooting'![]()
To help me promote/encourage people 'into the 'Art of shooting with Gundogs'?,I would like to know where we are 'Now', with the forum members,as a brief indication of the 'sport', nationwide.
If you are a 'Yes' then please reply and let me know the following:
1. Is it driven,rough/wildfowling etc?
2. What breed(s) of dogs do you work?
3. Would you say you were 'Experienced/Pro/Novice/beginner/'?
4. What overall factor would make or discourage you from entering an event such as the Polmaise Cup?
If you are a 'No' please say why you don't or haven't shot over/with your dog.
2. Spaniels
3. Beginner
4. The fact that I dont own a Lab (although that may change if I have my way
Too many Springers, and Roxie the black cocker.
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- Another cocker owner.
"There is no Elevator to success. You have to take the Stairs"
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