Spaniel Jim wrote:It's interesting if you take Craighaar and Edwardiana out of the system how many dogs that takes out of the choice process. Although given how far back they are on a lot of pedigrees now it's easy to tie them back in without going very close.
In general, as a rough rule of thumb, how far back in a pedigree would something you didn't like (this is addressed to anyone who is reading the thread because I know Grouse has found his dog and is happy with his choice) have to occur to be acceptable?
Maybe I'm just a naive newcomer, but surely if people didn't jump on stud bandwaggons (

sounds fun when you put it like that!) would you be in this pickle now? Again, I'm not having a pop at grouse (it's not 12th August yet!) but is the trials world in danger of becoming totally self-serving and self-obsessed and focussed on short-term success at the expense of losing it's original purpose - which I assume was to contribute to the improvement of the working gundog and the sport of shooting?

I know that's a bit of a devil's advocate sort of a question, but from the bits I've seen and read to date, I do wonder sometimes.