I'm not surprised by Labour, Corbyn was always out of synch with the majority of his MPs and this was bound to happen when the opportunity arose. He was also pretty ineffective in the campaign, arriving late to the party & shoving his foot in his mouth the first time he opened it. It has also come out that his inner circle were covertly working against his parliamentary party and that's stirred up a lot of anger. I'm not surprised at Cameron stepping down & I don't blame him. You could argue that he started it so he should finish it but up until the eleventh hour I think he thought he'd scrape through with the vote. As did the markets, so there was bound to be uncertainty there until an equilibrium is found. There were plenty saying how easy it was all going to be so I think it's time one of those stood up to the plate & put their reputation, and political career, where there mouth is.
Naj
On second thoughts, Boris? Gove? for PM!!! Nah, let's get someone sensible in like Theresa May.
munstyman wrote:
" And lets ask Roo about the rugby " quipped Pooh suppressing the sudden desire for pork scratchings
And Roo retorted "oh piss-off Pooh, you had to bring that up you puffed up faux bear. For years you've been avoiding talking rugby because you were embarrassed, now it eclipses our drinking and discussing politicians running for the woods?"
Pooh responded, "I'll have a scrumpy"
Speaking of scrumpy, scuttlebutt hereabouts (which could well be plain old porkies, what-what) is that Nigel Mansell may be spearheading a coalition of The Great and The Good Riddance to get the Channel Islands back on solid ground in what's left of the empire.
I can't recall where I read it but apparently Cameron was overheard saying something along the lines of "I don't see why I should have to deal with all this s**t" as he returned from his resignation announcement.
I'm no fan but I have some sympathy with that view. Leave won they should step up and make good on their promises.
bird wrote:I can't recall where I read it but apparently Cameron was overheard saying something along the lines of "I don't see why I should have to deal with all this s**t" as he returned from his resignation announcement.
I'm no fan but I have some sympathy with that view. Leave won they should step up and make good on their promises.
Well you might recall that it was Cameron who promised to hold the referendum in the first place, it was all part of his re-election campaign. He was also threatening to "walk away" from the EU during the last negotiations if he "didn't get the right deal for Britain"
He could have seen things through and prevented the amplified market panic that is evident. But I'm sure they want to create as much mess as possible so the can say "we told you so". I really feel that had the government presented more of a united front, the impact would have been better contained.
Watching Corbyn speak, I can't ever remember seeing a leader rip apart his own party like that before.
I don't think anyone read the vote correctly, not the bookies, the Markets or the politicians. From what people are now saying it seems there were lots that assumed that a Remain was a dead cert & so posted a protest vote thinking it didn't matter, and that's what skewed the polls. But even the polls said it was going to be a narrow margin. I know of a lot of people who couldn't decide until the last moment & then made a snap decision. And the markets were always going to be in turmoil on a surprise Leave vote whatever Cameron did or said. Osborne & Carney are the only steadying influence there.
Cameron did it to prevent the UKIP bandwagon and get back into power of course..He's played a blinder too because he's handed the new incumbent a grenade with the pin removed and whoever that person is, they are damned if they do and damned if they don't.... I don't think it will be Boris or Gove although it should be.. I personally dread the thought of Johnson and Trump in charge of anything...
In the meanwhile while that lot play politics and despite Boris's protestations otherwise, financially it's going to be Armageddon if someone doesn't step up to the plate and quick...Which I can't see...
Osborne isn't liked for the hard financial decisions he's had to make following Labours mismanagement of the country's finances to get us back on track. And hard as it's been we were just about coming out of that tunnel. I feel sorry for Theresa May in all this too...
Labour and Corbyn have just signed their own death warrant.
Maybe we should just stick with the A A Milne analogies...
I'm watching the England V Iceland game on TV, seems to me that Roy Hodgson is the only man from England that has a credible plan on how to leave Europe
Dawnrazor wrote:I'm watching the England V Iceland game on TV, seems to me that Roy Hodgson is the only man from England that has a credible plan on how to leave Europe
Yesterday I watched a you tube clip of a young woman whose main reason for voting leave was so she did not have to watch England in the Euros with her boyfriend next year! Aside from the many points she does not understand about the United Kingdon, the EU or football tournaments by 9 o'clock I was coming around to her way of thinking.
Dawnrazor wrote:I'm watching the England V Iceland game on TV, seems to me that Roy Hodgson is the only man from England that has a credible plan on how to leave Europe
Yesterday I watched a you tube clip of a young woman whose main reason for voting leave was so she did not have to watch England in the Euros with her boyfriend next year! Aside from the many points she does not understand about the United Kingdon, the EU or football tournaments by 9 o'clock I was coming around to her way of thinking.