Thanks, thought it might be but, being from the ignorant beautiful South...Amberquest wrote:Rashes, rushes, etc
Ferns Field Trial Forays
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Rushes for us southerners Judy, perhaps rashes for those in essexJudy wrote:Thanks, thought it might be but, being from the ignorant beautiful South...Amberquest wrote:Rashes, rushes, etcAnd thanks for the write ups, interesting reading.
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rashes in sunny south wilts!Stihl 090 wrote:Rushes for us southerners Judy, perhaps rashes for those in essexJudy wrote:Thanks, thought it might be but, being from the ignorant beautiful South...Amberquest wrote:Rashes, rushes, etcAnd thanks for the write ups, interesting reading.
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Actually the plant in the photo is sedge where I come from originally but I thought that was being a tad pedantic!
Rushes are Reeds and Bullrushes, or Reedmace I think they are supposed to be called.
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Excellent right up bud have shot at helbeck before on the moors nice ground shame it didn't go your way fingers crossed for you always great to hear how your getting on, I know what ya ment though but I'm a Cumbrian lol 5 mins from helbeck as well lol
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I call those reeds and often call that spikegrass stuff rashes. Very confusing !Amberquest wrote:Rashes, rushes, etc
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Today (14/10/15) I took part in the Lancashire and Merseyside Novice AV Stake on the Lupton Shoot in Cumbria. This is probably my closest trial ground, around 50 minutes from home, so I got a comparative lie in compared to other trials, however I’d offered to help the keeper dog a big wheat field which was holding birds back into the trial ground.
After arriving approximately 7:30am, we dogged the field in towards the trial ground with pheasant after pheasant coming out of the wheat. Lucy and Ria my other young dogs had plenty of flushes and I was happy with how they went.
We were back at the meeting point around 8:30am and after a quick bacon butty and a short delay as the judges were stuck in traffic, we loaded up into the beaters wagon and made the short drive to the ground. The first dogs were in a cover crop field, driving it towards the wood where the trial normally begins, and the early dogs had relatively long runs before getting into some game. I was in at number 9 so I knew I’d be in soon.
We started back up within the wood where I’d been put out in the same trial a couple of years ago. The birds tend to run up the hill to the wall at the top of the wood before breaking out onto the sieves and open ground. The dog in front of me had he flush and retrieve and after a short hunt I was called up. I was in under Mark Whitehouse and another judge whos name escapes me! I started my run with Fern sat off the lead whilst the other side hunted a small patch of cover in the wood before we were to move out onto the open ground. The left hand side finished their patch and we moved out of the wood.
I had some shortish gorse to work through, where a hare which had been shot at and ran past us whilst we were backing up had run into. Mark asked me to take the lead off and begin, and immediately Fern was away, nose down and investigating all the gorse before having a lovely contact flush on a cock pheasant which was shot approximately 20 yards to our left in some more gorse. “Send your dog” he said. Out went Fern and after approx. 5 yards she flushed a hair on her outrun, spinning round and taking a couple of steps before sitting. I assumed it was the wounded hare from earlier. I’d unconsciously said “No” even with the whistle in my mouth, and expected to go out, but the judges said carry on. I gave her a cast back and she was straight out and back with the bird with no handling.
We carried on hunting and again she had a lovely contact flush on another cocker bird, this time it was shot over a high dry stone wall with barbed wire along the top approximately 30 yards or so behind us in a grass field. I asked the judges if I could lift her over and then sent her for the bird.
As I was watching her over the wall, it started to crumble on me so I moved sharpish, much to the delight of the judges and keeper haha. Fern went straight out and back with the bird, jumping up and delivering the bird to me atop the wall before I lifted her down over the wire. A short hunt through the remaining gorse and my run was done. She had hunted maybe 20 yards or so and had two good finds and retrieves. I was relatively happy and speaking with both judges after the run, I apologised for saying “No”, I must have been in training mode, to which Mark replied next time use your whistle not your mouth!!! Point taken!
The trial continued and game supply dropped a little, with a couple of the guys having long runs and being tried on birds that from the gallery we knew had glided a long way on. We’d had quite a long wait and I could tell Fern was bubbling up. She was restless and was fidgety on the lead.
We were finally called up into line and had a patch of sieves and light gorse to work alongside a little beck/gutter. She was going nicely, a little sticky at times in the gorse but she looked ok and it wasn’t long before she had a contact flush on a hen pheasant which was shot around 25 yards out in front, and was swiftly picked by Fern. Only problem was I hadn’t told her to go!!!!! Two contacts and a hare in her first run and she decided to run in now? Brilliant!!!
I thanked the judges and made my way back to the gallery, thoroughly disappointed in what had happened. Speaking with Mark after the trial, he explained he probably could have put me out, but understood why it happened and that I wouldn’t have learned anything if he’d have put me out. I give him credit for being so fair and open with me, and he told me I’d be knocked for it under him. Fair enough.
Another trial where she was going well but then has a moment of madness and costs us a placing. The trial was won by Lee Marsden, Ian Clarke in 2nd, Dave Massey in 3rd and Steven Blackwell in 4th. I made the short drive home furious and probably the most dejected I’ve been after a trial
After arriving approximately 7:30am, we dogged the field in towards the trial ground with pheasant after pheasant coming out of the wheat. Lucy and Ria my other young dogs had plenty of flushes and I was happy with how they went.
We were back at the meeting point around 8:30am and after a quick bacon butty and a short delay as the judges were stuck in traffic, we loaded up into the beaters wagon and made the short drive to the ground. The first dogs were in a cover crop field, driving it towards the wood where the trial normally begins, and the early dogs had relatively long runs before getting into some game. I was in at number 9 so I knew I’d be in soon.
We started back up within the wood where I’d been put out in the same trial a couple of years ago. The birds tend to run up the hill to the wall at the top of the wood before breaking out onto the sieves and open ground. The dog in front of me had he flush and retrieve and after a short hunt I was called up. I was in under Mark Whitehouse and another judge whos name escapes me! I started my run with Fern sat off the lead whilst the other side hunted a small patch of cover in the wood before we were to move out onto the open ground. The left hand side finished their patch and we moved out of the wood.
I had some shortish gorse to work through, where a hare which had been shot at and ran past us whilst we were backing up had run into. Mark asked me to take the lead off and begin, and immediately Fern was away, nose down and investigating all the gorse before having a lovely contact flush on a cock pheasant which was shot approximately 20 yards to our left in some more gorse. “Send your dog” he said. Out went Fern and after approx. 5 yards she flushed a hair on her outrun, spinning round and taking a couple of steps before sitting. I assumed it was the wounded hare from earlier. I’d unconsciously said “No” even with the whistle in my mouth, and expected to go out, but the judges said carry on. I gave her a cast back and she was straight out and back with the bird with no handling.
We carried on hunting and again she had a lovely contact flush on another cocker bird, this time it was shot over a high dry stone wall with barbed wire along the top approximately 30 yards or so behind us in a grass field. I asked the judges if I could lift her over and then sent her for the bird.
As I was watching her over the wall, it started to crumble on me so I moved sharpish, much to the delight of the judges and keeper haha. Fern went straight out and back with the bird, jumping up and delivering the bird to me atop the wall before I lifted her down over the wire. A short hunt through the remaining gorse and my run was done. She had hunted maybe 20 yards or so and had two good finds and retrieves. I was relatively happy and speaking with both judges after the run, I apologised for saying “No”, I must have been in training mode, to which Mark replied next time use your whistle not your mouth!!! Point taken!
The trial continued and game supply dropped a little, with a couple of the guys having long runs and being tried on birds that from the gallery we knew had glided a long way on. We’d had quite a long wait and I could tell Fern was bubbling up. She was restless and was fidgety on the lead.
We were finally called up into line and had a patch of sieves and light gorse to work alongside a little beck/gutter. She was going nicely, a little sticky at times in the gorse but she looked ok and it wasn’t long before she had a contact flush on a hen pheasant which was shot around 25 yards out in front, and was swiftly picked by Fern. Only problem was I hadn’t told her to go!!!!! Two contacts and a hare in her first run and she decided to run in now? Brilliant!!!
I thanked the judges and made my way back to the gallery, thoroughly disappointed in what had happened. Speaking with Mark after the trial, he explained he probably could have put me out, but understood why it happened and that I wouldn’t have learned anything if he’d have put me out. I give him credit for being so fair and open with me, and he told me I’d be knocked for it under him. Fair enough.
Another trial where she was going well but then has a moment of madness and costs us a placing. The trial was won by Lee Marsden, Ian Clarke in 2nd, Dave Massey in 3rd and Steven Blackwell in 4th. I made the short drive home furious and probably the most dejected I’ve been after a trial
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Today (19/10/15) I took part in the Lothian and Borders Gundog Association Field Trial association novice cocker stake on the Cranshaws estate in the Scottish Borders. It was a 4:15am wake up before the 4 hour drive which was a bit of a shock to the system. I’d managed to get a run with Ria, my other novice dog, who I’d entered on the off chance she may get a run so she was loaded up into the car with Fern and away we went, stopping half way for a brew and butty.
We arrived at the meet point at around 8:30am, before exercising the dogs and being hustled into buying raffle tickets. I was in at number 8 with Fern and number 10 with Ria, so I’d have little or no time in between there runs. In honestly I had no expectations on Ria, if she finished the trial I’d have been happy, so was feeling fairly relaxed.
The trial started in a field of sieves and white grass and the early dogs had longish runs with finds on rabbits on pheasants before I was called over to back up with Fern. She was pulling hard on the lead and I could tell she was worked up. It wasn’t long before we were changing dogs after a hare was shot at but carried on.
I cast Fern off into the bracken and she was flying and soon sat up and a rabbit doubled back and into the cover behind us. The judge asked me to put her in and try and flush it again which she did and it was shot at and missed. As I cast her off again she squeaked. It’s not the first time this has happened, she’s on the edge a lot, and today it ultimately cost me. Balls.
I thanked the judge and went to get Ria. Now Ria doesn’t hunt with the pace of Fern, but she’s incredibly efficient and a natural game finder. I cast her off and she was a little sluggish at first before upping a gear once she hit the line where the rabbit had run. We continued our run through sieves and white grass and she was going nicely, until she started to pull on a line a couple of times and needed a couple of reminders to hunt within range.
She went on the line again and flushed a cock bird which was shot and she ran in. I wasn’t disappointed, I smiled, I’d half expected it and was more happy that she’d actually hit top gear in a trial, her last attempt at a trial it was if someone had pressed the slow motion button. I thanked the judge and made my way back to the gallery before having a crack with Frances Brooks the secretary, handing my numbers in and hitting the road which she was happy enough with given my 4 hour journey.
I’ve had a lot of time to reflect on trialling these last few weeks, sat on motorways after bitter disappointment, knowing that she is capable of winning, but not consistent enough to actually win. 1 excellent run is always marred by a poor one or unfortunately an eliminating fault. I’d spoken with Sarah my partner over the weekend before the trial and said this was my last one. I am running out of holidays from work, it costs a fortune and ultimately it’s difficult to be upbeat and enthused about it when you’re not finishing.
Fern’s 3 and a half now, and probably should have won a novice by now. Anyone else and I think they would have sold her on. She’s had her good moments, 2nd to Will Clulee in one trial, but something always comes between us and winning. It’s gotten to the stage where I’m not enjoying my dogs any more, and trialling has become a chore rather than a past time. Even simple things like walking the dogs through local woods with Sarah etc, I’m constantly on top of the dogs not to chase, stay within range etc. we took the dogs picking up at the weekend, no pressure and it’s the most I’ve enjoyed the dogs in a long time, seeing Sarah working Ria on her own and being chuffed with her making nice long retrieves made me realise there’s more to dogs than trialling.
Trialling is the peak of the gundog world, there’s no denying that, and I have thoroughly enjoyed my time and made some great friends whilst doing it, and learnt a hell of a lot. Now is the time for me to stop trialling, at least for the time being, my young dog isn’t ready and I’ve a wedding to plan next year. I could do with the holidays and extra money. I’ve removed all my dog friend off facebook to remove temptation to have another go, so if you’re one of them and have disappeared off my list that’s the reason.
So that’s me and Fern done. Our record stands at 18 trials, 1 guns choice, 1 Certificate of Merit and one 2nd Place. No doubt I’ll return to it sometime in the future, who knows, I may not get another one good enough. It seems fitting that I bow out after this trial as it's the ground I ran in my first ever trial almost two years ago to the day.
I hope you’ve all enjoyed my trialling blog more than I have writing them up!
We arrived at the meet point at around 8:30am, before exercising the dogs and being hustled into buying raffle tickets. I was in at number 8 with Fern and number 10 with Ria, so I’d have little or no time in between there runs. In honestly I had no expectations on Ria, if she finished the trial I’d have been happy, so was feeling fairly relaxed.
The trial started in a field of sieves and white grass and the early dogs had longish runs with finds on rabbits on pheasants before I was called over to back up with Fern. She was pulling hard on the lead and I could tell she was worked up. It wasn’t long before we were changing dogs after a hare was shot at but carried on.
I cast Fern off into the bracken and she was flying and soon sat up and a rabbit doubled back and into the cover behind us. The judge asked me to put her in and try and flush it again which she did and it was shot at and missed. As I cast her off again she squeaked. It’s not the first time this has happened, she’s on the edge a lot, and today it ultimately cost me. Balls.
I thanked the judge and went to get Ria. Now Ria doesn’t hunt with the pace of Fern, but she’s incredibly efficient and a natural game finder. I cast her off and she was a little sluggish at first before upping a gear once she hit the line where the rabbit had run. We continued our run through sieves and white grass and she was going nicely, until she started to pull on a line a couple of times and needed a couple of reminders to hunt within range.
She went on the line again and flushed a cock bird which was shot and she ran in. I wasn’t disappointed, I smiled, I’d half expected it and was more happy that she’d actually hit top gear in a trial, her last attempt at a trial it was if someone had pressed the slow motion button. I thanked the judge and made my way back to the gallery before having a crack with Frances Brooks the secretary, handing my numbers in and hitting the road which she was happy enough with given my 4 hour journey.
I’ve had a lot of time to reflect on trialling these last few weeks, sat on motorways after bitter disappointment, knowing that she is capable of winning, but not consistent enough to actually win. 1 excellent run is always marred by a poor one or unfortunately an eliminating fault. I’d spoken with Sarah my partner over the weekend before the trial and said this was my last one. I am running out of holidays from work, it costs a fortune and ultimately it’s difficult to be upbeat and enthused about it when you’re not finishing.
Fern’s 3 and a half now, and probably should have won a novice by now. Anyone else and I think they would have sold her on. She’s had her good moments, 2nd to Will Clulee in one trial, but something always comes between us and winning. It’s gotten to the stage where I’m not enjoying my dogs any more, and trialling has become a chore rather than a past time. Even simple things like walking the dogs through local woods with Sarah etc, I’m constantly on top of the dogs not to chase, stay within range etc. we took the dogs picking up at the weekend, no pressure and it’s the most I’ve enjoyed the dogs in a long time, seeing Sarah working Ria on her own and being chuffed with her making nice long retrieves made me realise there’s more to dogs than trialling.
Trialling is the peak of the gundog world, there’s no denying that, and I have thoroughly enjoyed my time and made some great friends whilst doing it, and learnt a hell of a lot. Now is the time for me to stop trialling, at least for the time being, my young dog isn’t ready and I’ve a wedding to plan next year. I could do with the holidays and extra money. I’ve removed all my dog friend off facebook to remove temptation to have another go, so if you’re one of them and have disappeared off my list that’s the reason.
So that’s me and Fern done. Our record stands at 18 trials, 1 guns choice, 1 Certificate of Merit and one 2nd Place. No doubt I’ll return to it sometime in the future, who knows, I may not get another one good enough. It seems fitting that I bow out after this trial as it's the ground I ran in my first ever trial almost two years ago to the day.
I hope you’ve all enjoyed my trialling blog more than I have writing them up!
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Thoroughly enjoyed them, thanks for taking the time to write them up.
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i have really enjoyed your blogs over time and was shocked to read that you have hung up your trialling boots but can understand your reasons. At one point whilst reading i thought you were completely going to give up your dogs but was pleased you are still beating and picking up
From someone who is looking at trialling next year your blogs have been a great insight into the world of trials
all the best
Chris
From someone who is looking at trialling next year your blogs have been a great insight into the world of trials
all the best
Chris