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You're the one talking of labradoodles... I don't think its the others that are trolls

Cass wrote:You're the one talking of labradoodles... I don't think its the others that are trolls

Instead of advice I get narky comments from some of these people. They are trying to lead me into a situation where they can try to embarrass me. I've been on enough forums to spot the signs.

I know how these people get when you mention cross breeds and thought I'd have a dig back. After all, without inbreeding some of these stuck up, sad little people wouldn't be where they are today.

Anyway. Back to my original question.

What are the most sought after lines in ESS breeding?

Ok I apologise, I just knew there would be a backlash.
As far as I can gather different people are good with and prefer different 'sorts' of lines, for example those known to be hard, soft, hard hunting, etc. totally depends on what your preference is but I'm sure somebody with more nowse than me will be along shortly

Anarchy84 wrote:Sgurr. My sister breeds boxers and is available if I need her. I'll ask her to let me know when she has a stud coming next so I can go pick up some tips.

Good - see if you can get the stud owner on side as a mentor. Your sister will have hands on experience of the bitch's needs during pregnancy, whelping, raising pups etc and eventually you will need to get to grips with that too. But the stud owner is in charge of the mating and that's where things can either be easy peasy or go horribly wrong and if you are looking to stud your dog eventually, that is the experience you need. My breeding mentor bred GSD's and I was there when she put her own stud to her own maiden bitch and the bitch panicked at the tie and it took four people to hold the dogs together, two police dog handlers, Jenny the breeder and her husband. I was very grateful to be on the sidelines as observer!

Very nice offer you have from Redrob so I hope you take it up.

Health testing info for Springers is available in depth on the English Springer Spaniel Club website and also The Kennel Club website - the brief version is on my website if you want to check it out www.sgurr.org.uk

Sgurr wrote:

Anarchy84 wrote:Sgurr. My sister breeds boxers and is available if I need her. I'll ask her to let me know when she has a stud coming next so I can go pick up some tips.

Good - see if you can get the stud owner on side as a mentor. Your sister will have hands on experience of the bitch's needs during pregnancy, whelping, raising pups etc and eventually you will need to get to grips with that too. But the stud owner is in charge of the mating and that's where things can either be easy peasy or go horribly wrong and if you are looking to stud your dog eventually, that is the experience you need. My breeding mentor bred GSD's and I was there when she put her own stud to her own maiden bitch and the bitch panicked at the tie and it took four people to hold the dogs together, two police dog handlers, Jenny the breeder and her husband. I was very grateful to be on the sidelines as observer!

Very nice offer you have from Redrob so I hope you take it up.

Health testing info for Springers is available in depth on the English Springer Spaniel Club website and also The Kennel Club website - the brief version is on my website if you want to check it out http://www.sgurr.org.uk

She uses the same stud for all her 3 bitches and he's local so that seems like the thing to do.

I'm going down to the club tonight to have a look. Speaking of which, I best go get ready.

Thanks

Anarchy,the name gives it away really. As a newcomer to this forum site I have received good advice that has helped me achieve what I wanted to achieve regarding training. There are genuine gundog trainers on this site who are worth listening to.
Ratting? Labradoodles? Springadors? Sprussells?
Got to be taking the Pi55 RIGHT?

Perhaps you might be better educating yourself on field trials and what is expected of a dog competing before you offer your dog for stud. Nobody in their right mind would take a pup off a mediocre spaniel used for ratting and trial it.
There are many field trial champions not used at stud very often for one reason or another, I can't imagine anybody rushing to use your Roland rat dog...

eastie wrote:Perhaps you might be better educating yourself on field trials and what is expected of a dog competing before you offer your dog for stud. Nobody in their right mind would take a pup off a mediocre spaniel used for ratting and trial it.
There are many field trial champions not used at stud very often for one reason or another, I can't imagine anybody rushing to use your Roland rat dog...

Exactly,right. With so many FTCH stud dogs available at stud,why would anyone want to use an ex ratter? Bear in mind I am not decrying ratters for they are brave and useful, In fact I have an excellent ratter myself,She is a patterdale and would never make a gundog.

But at least he is asking and hopefully being guided by the helpful answers he has had to his thread. We all have to start somewhere. I don't suppose for a minute you knew it all when you started out.