Brexit? Leave or Remain?

[Judy]

I seem to remember we were fourth richest a while back? Anyway, more food for thought
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-e ... m-36398662
And, slightly more scarily:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/po ... 74311.html

[Naj]

We will send all the Turks to live on your patch naj. Yes we have a good economy and it will be greater once we stop handing it over to under performing left wing states in Europe. Two countries are self sustaining in Europe,Britain and Germany. The rest are Free loaders and not worth a spit. You may be fine where you are but try living in the towns and cities where English is not the spoken language. Proud Yorkshire with its people of historic country ways and values,its now full of immigrants and no jobs for the natives.
Get out of Europe and give Britain back to the British,whatever colour or creed. Patriotism.

Sorry but the Brexit side don't have a monopoly on patriotism. And you need to speak to your colleagues in the east who prefer to employ immigrant workers for their agricultural labour rather than British ones.

[munstyman]

Well if they are going to play the pension card they need to balance the argument
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... -bomb.html

the 5th richest trading country in the universe

Lol Naj, I know the EU flag is made up with stars, but in an infinite universe?... I heard that the Bluglaturds of the far rim had third to eighty five best economies all sown up
Mind you I think it was based on the universe equivalent of Treasury economists figures and MORI doing the pole...so + or - 99.99% margin of error

Lets face it both sides are talking dogs dangly bits, they are politicians after all, best to go with your gut based on the trend of the last 41 years, and not the garbage being spouted in the last six months

[Judy]

We will send all the Turks to live on your patch naj. Yes we have a good economy and it will be greater once we stop handing it over to under performing left wing states in Europe. Two countries are self sustaining in Europe,Britain and Germany. The rest are Free loaders and not worth a spit. You may be fine where you are but try living in the towns and cities where English is not the spoken language. Proud Yorkshire with its people of historic country ways and values,its now full of immigrants and no jobs for the natives.
Get out of Europe and give Britain back to the British,whatever colour or creed. Patriotism.

Sorry but the Brexit side don't have a monopoly on patriotism. And you need to speak to your colleagues in the east who prefer to employ immigrant workers for their agricultural labour rather than British ones.

Agricultural labourers? Fruit picking was all done by teenagers and their Mums when I were a lass, these days they don't want to work at mucky stuff like that.

[Dawnrazor]

Agricultural labourers? Fruit picking was all done by teenagers and their Mums when I were a lass, these days they don't want to work at mucky stuff like that.

This is how I remember it, although it was tatties, neaps, sproots and caulies where I grew up.
If people who "can't" find work had work in the fields they'd quick sharpish find something they could do. I despair at the British working class at times, lots seem not to want to work!!!
I had a 16 year old lad come beating last season, played rugby he told me, wrecked by lunch time!!! Sitting on arses will soon be Britain's only talent in the world labour market, I really worry for some.

[munstyman]

Aye Judy and DR, the youngsters of today don't know there born....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xe1a1wHxTyo

But they still extended the registering to vote as their vote counts, interesting to think that those that left it till the last minute, literally, to register and would have lost their right to vote due to the `IT failure' are the forward thinkers capable of making the right, considered choices for a countries future....

[Springfield Pointers]

Very disturbing to read about the tragic death of Jo Cox and the political link to it. Ominous noises from very odd people.

[bird]

https://youtu.be/USTypBKEd8Y

Watch this man and he will explain why leaving is very, very far from straightforward and how we would disentangle ourselves from the EU. He also discusses how we currently influence the EU and how laws get negotiated.

I found it most useful!!

[Naj]

I was just about to post this myself. It's not politicians you should be listening to with their hyperbole and political agendas but people like this guy.

Another major issue that is being downplayed is that if we leave we will likely trigger the collapse of the EU as pressure from within builds to leave rather than reform. Britain needs stability in Europe for its own economic stability, especially when we dip into recession after a Brexit win, which everyone accepts we will even in the Brexit camp (We don't like austerity so why vote for recession!!??) And regardless of the economic calamity a weak Europe will only embolden Putin to strengthen Russia's position with the fringe States on its borders, further destabilising Europe. He already has a track record on this. So we not only have a destabilised Europe Economically but also Geo politically. And it will affect us deeply & adversely. There's no getting around that or hoping that America will bail us out because America is fed up of carrying Europe.

Naj

[sandra]

Anybody else still having trouble deciding?! The clip above featuring Prof Dougan is very interesting and I've been trying to find information like this from both sides rather than listening to politicians and the media.

BUT what do I do if I wake up in the morning and I'm still dithering? I've always voted in elections out of principal but I'm now wondering if not voting at all is better than standing there in front of the ballot paper and going 'eeny meeny'