Gundog Training Forum

Craigius wrote: ↑Wed Jun 21, 2017 6:40 pm Yeah I agree totally are you aware of any videos of hellraiser at all?

You'll get him on the 2015 championship DVD, early in the second day.

Aye there was one knocking about on fb a while back....his offspring will be running this season too.

I had the pleaasure of walking behind him at a trial on my shoot , when Andy clicked him off my jaw dropped to the ground , in my short time trialling tI havent seen many other dogs like him , its a beast of a dog that smashes bramble and any cover that gets in his way with style and amazing pace the vidoes really dont do him justice

Im sure the term "Stallion of the Breed" is 100% correct for him.

Very few dogs have made me wince but he is one of them, FTCh Belvden Vatanen, OFTW Edwardiana Howdee, are the others......what i would call a dogs dog.

EssGrouse wrote: ↑Wed Jul 05, 2017 9:43 am Im sure the term "Stallion of the Breed" is 100% correct for him.

Very few dogs have made me wince but he is one of them, FTCh Belvden Vatanen, OFTW Edwardiana Howdee, are the others......what i would call a dogs dog.

Is he better than Heath?

Strathcraig wrote: ↑Wed Jul 05, 2017 1:41 pm

EssGrouse wrote: ↑Wed Jul 05, 2017 9:43 am Im sure the term "Stallion of the Breed" is 100% correct for him.

Very few dogs have made me wince but he is one of them, FTCh Belvden Vatanen, OFTW Edwardiana Howdee, are the others......what i would call a dogs dog.

Is he better than Heath?

Diffirent, not as soft, I think Ted has more wriggle than Will, both are powerful animals but I still prefer Henry out of the three!!!

Dawnrazor wrote: ↑Wed Jul 05, 2017 3:38 pm

Strathcraig wrote: ↑Wed Jul 05, 2017 1:41 pm

EssGrouse wrote: ↑Wed Jul 05, 2017 9:43 am Im sure the term "Stallion of the Breed" is 100% correct for him.

Very few dogs have made me wince but he is one of them, FTCh Belvden Vatanen, OFTW Edwardiana Howdee, are the others......what i would call a dogs dog.

Is he better than Heath?

Diffirent, not as soft, I think Ted has more wriggle than Will, both are powerful animals but I still prefer Henry out of the three!!!

They're all tremendous dogs.

I've competed against them all... been beaten by Heath, beat Henry and neither Hellraiser nor my dog finished the 2015 championship. Hellraiser's the one that caught my eye though, even as a young dog before he trialled.

Strathcraig wrote: ↑Wed Jul 05, 2017 1:41 pm

EssGrouse wrote: ↑Wed Jul 05, 2017 9:43 am Im sure the term "Stallion of the Breed" is 100% correct for him.

Very few dogs have made me wince but he is one of them, FTCh Belvden Vatanen, OFTW Edwardiana Howdee, are the others......what i would call a dogs dog.

Is he better than Heath?

Depends what you like in a dog i suppose and everyone will have their own take. Heath is a dog in a lifetime for Andy, saying that Hero is the clone of him in every way albeit he doesnt have Heath's record but he will be some dog himself, im sure of it.

Henry was always the dog i always preferred until Hellrasier came along.

Trying to compare Ted againist Will is like comparing chalk n cheese, literally. They are everything the other isnt.

More importantly it seems he is producing also, my bitch was his 8th offspring to gain a stud book number yesterday. 3 of the 8 being FTW's.

Not bad considering he only sired his first litter in 2015.

Now residing in Denmark......