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There all suspect lines, their Cocker'sNaj wrote:So was Mallowdale a suspect line?
at least we can rule out this line as its tested, pity some other famous lines didn't test..,Havent you read this thread?Naj wrote:Wow, didn't realise it was so bad!
I said all along I thought the allegations were malicious.t jack wrote:I see someone's tested and posted results on FB of ftch mallowdale gun x ftch mallowdale maggy and come back as level one cocker.
Be interested to see the FB post, can you say who it was ?johnnyp wrote:I said all along I thought the allegations were malicious.t jack wrote:I see someone's tested and posted results on FB of ftch mallowdale gun x ftch mallowdale maggy and come back as level one cocker.
Just to throw a spanner in the works about "cocker style" do we think it could be that people are training them to quarter like a springer as they think thats the way a "spaniel" should hunt……JET1955 wrote:I agree with you Naj about a cocker has a distinct action,but i.m.o.it also as a distinct style in the way it works its ground.Quoted from someone who knows a thing or two about the breed:- "Whenhunting they make use of little runs,in and out of cover,made by game.The best ones seem to hunt similar to a stoat.Rapid movement,then stopping momentarily,checking left and right for air scent and game movement.In and out of cover.They command attention,you dare not take your eyes off them,you never know where they will appear or what will happen next".
Certainly agree about not knowing what s going to happen next
Interesting !!alpha wrote:Just to throw a spanner in the works about "cocker style" do we think it could be that people are training them to quarter like a springer as they think thats the way a "spaniel" should hunt……JET1955 wrote:I agree with you Naj about a cocker has a distinct action,but i.m.o.it also as a distinct style in the way it works its ground.Quoted from someone who knows a thing or two about the breed:- "Whenhunting they make use of little runs,in and out of cover,made by game.The best ones seem to hunt similar to a stoat.Rapid movement,then stopping momentarily,checking left and right for air scent and game movement.In and out of cover.They command attention,you dare not take your eyes off them,you never know where they will appear or what will happen next".
Certainly agree about not knowing what s going to happen next
I've seen lots of good cockers at training events been taught to quarter mostly by Cocker inexperienced trainers they seem to train them the same as a springer…..which isn't really how a cocker should work
Watching a good cocker is one of the best things ever lb for lb the best gun dog anyone can ever have
Cockers are supposed to "basket weave" in areas looking for game …..rather than quarter like a spring more a case of deliberately finding game than sweeping an area in a pattern which is what springers do bestips wrote:Interesting !!alpha wrote:Just to throw a spanner in the works about "cocker style" do we think it could be that people are training them to quarter like a springer as they think thats the way a "spaniel" should hunt……JET1955 wrote:I agree with you Naj about a cocker has a distinct action,but i.m.o.it also as a distinct style in the way it works its ground.Quoted from someone who knows a thing or two about the breed:- "Whenhunting they make use of little runs,in and out of cover,made by game.The best ones seem to hunt similar to a stoat.Rapid movement,then stopping momentarily,checking left and right for air scent and game movement.In and out of cover.They command attention,you dare not take your eyes off them,you never know where they will appear or what will happen next".
Certainly agree about not knowing what s going to happen next
I've seen lots of good cockers at training events been taught to quarter mostly by Cocker inexperienced trainers they seem to train them the same as a springer…..which isn't really how a cocker should work
Watching a good cocker is one of the best things ever lb for lb the best gun dog anyone can ever have
So how should a cocker be trained to hunt if not quartering springer style. ??
