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Not regularly newf, although on sat i did just that after the shoot, did a couple just for training
And sometimes, newf, it can cause an otherwise dependable dog to come unstrung on steadiness and other training. Or if a high-octane pup spaniel or retriever, they can even get injured skidding to a halt and pouncing on cold game.
)... looks like he cost you an arm and a leg...crackerd wrote: ↑Thu Jan 16, 2020 6:11 pmAnd sometimes, newf, it can cause an otherwise dependable dog to come unstrung on steadiness and other training. Or if a high-octane pup spaniel or retriever, they can even get injured skidding to a halt and pouncing on cold game.
There's about 150 odd (and odder) ways of "treating" this situation, treats included, but why not give 'em something they don't really want to put to put down (but may not want to bring back to you, either
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Re the toller pup I've been working with, the owner a new septuagenarian ain't real mobile at the moment, so I tell him as soon as he sends the pup for a retrieve of a dummy or bird that I've thrown, that he (the owner) should ascend a set of three patio stairs and wait for the dog to run up the stairs returning with bird or bumper in mouth, then reach down and take the retrieve from it before the pup realizes its grand feat of coordination. But I would also reiterate for ips that the side-sit delivery we use for gundogs particularly FT "waterdogs" ain't just for looks...
MG
Looks to me like she never put a foot wrongcrackerd wrote: ↑Thu Jan 16, 2020 6:11 pmAnd sometimes, newf, it can cause an otherwise dependable dog to come unstrung on steadiness and other training. Or if a high-octane pup spaniel or retriever, they can even get injured skidding to a halt and pouncing on cold game.
There's about 150 odd (and odder) ways of "treating" this situation, treats included, but why not give 'em something they don't really want to put to put down (but may not want to bring back to you, either
IMG_20191206_133118.jpg
Re the toller pup I've been working with, the owner a new septuagenarian ain't real mobile at the moment, so I tell him as soon as he sends the pup for a retrieve of a dummy or bird that I've thrown, that he (the owner) should ascend a set of three patio stairs and wait for the dog to run up the stairs returning with bird or bumper in mouth, then reach down and take the retrieve from it before the pup realizes its grand feat of coordination. But I would also reiterate for ips that the side-sit delivery we use for gundogs particularly FT "waterdogs" ain't just for looks...
MG
.Tis true MG.crackerd wrote: ↑Thu Jan 16, 2020 6:11 pmAnd sometimes, newf, it can cause an otherwise dependable dog to come unstrung on steadiness and other training. Or if a high-octane pup spaniel or retriever, they can even get injured skidding to a halt and pouncing on cold game.
There's about 150 odd (and odder) ways of "treating" this situation, treats included, but why not give 'em something they don't really want to put to put down (but may not want to bring back to you, either
IMG_20191206_133118.jpg
Re the toller pup I've been working with, the owner a new septuagenarian ain't real mobile at the moment, so I tell him as soon as he sends the pup for a retrieve of a dummy or bird that I've thrown, that he (the owner) should ascend a set of three patio stairs and wait for the dog to run up the stairs returning with bird or bumper in mouth, then reach down and take the retrieve from it before the pup realizes its grand feat of coordination. But I would also reiterate for ips that the side-sit delivery we use for gundogs particularly FT "waterdogs" ain't just for looks...
MG
However, I guess the dangers can be mitigated by the ground: hard pavement vs. soft ground with a bit of cover. Then too, I do allow my dogs to rough house in the garden, in my presence. That too, maybe a 'no-no' but they're dogs doing doggy things. It's a risk, inherent in being a dog, that has to be acceptable within limits of course, same as above. 
I have no doubt you will...but either way, I wish you luck with the training, and hope it progresses steadily, you know well enough how to succeed - you just plod on, putting one foot in front of the other.
