FTCH qualification criteria and trials

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what happens if you have a blank run (no game)?
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i think fc springer has already shown us the 'amount of game', around? :lol:
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James wrote:what happens if you have a blank run (no game)?

Well that rarely happens, but does. And you are basically pouting and realized your dog could not find birds. So after the dog has shown no sign of finding game, they tire and you put your leash on him or her and try another day. If it goes to long a judge will stop you and say thanks. That is a call some handlers should make sooner them selves. It is not worth killing a dog over in warm conditions. But most find some game. Some just have better runs that day. :-D
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FCSpringer wrote:
James wrote:what happens if you have a blank run (no game)?

Well that rarely happens, but does. And you are basically pouting and realized your dog could not find birds. So after the dog has shown no sign of finding game, they tire and you put your leash on him or her and try another day. If it goes to long a judge will stop you and say thanks. That is a call some handlers should make sooner them selves. It is not worth killing a dog over in warm conditions. But most find some game. Some just have better runs that day. :-D
Not to different from here then, thanks
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would be good to see some youtube clips of proper US spaniel events. :whistle:
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arwesa wrote:so it sounds like the UK system does have a level above in terms of tests i.e. the championship. your system obviously puts a lot more dogs into an event. how many dogs are judged at one time under how many judges and how many runs/rounds do you get in each trial?

Well, the National is the above event over a field championship title.
And you run in a brace with 1 other dog. Each has there own gunners and there own judge. Your dog must Honor the other on a flush, shot and retrieve. They must be steady. They will run one series under each judge if they get through. Then they call you back to a 3rd series if you do well. Then in the third you run under both judges by your self. They determine from the 3 runs which dogs get the 4 placements. It takes a while but it gets done. :-D

I should add, that even if you have a title, you still need to qualify each year for the National Championship. But if you have a dog that won the National, that dog is automatically invited each year. But rarely does one dog win it more then once. There is just too many good dogs.
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You have to win an open every season over here to get a run in the championships, the only time you qualify by other means is by winning it. You only get asked to run the following season after winning it, after that you have to qualify all over again.
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arwesa wrote:would be good to see some youtube clips of proper US spaniel events. :whistle:

Yes, but I don't think you will find any on youtube. They used to cover the National on TV, ESPN. But they got in the way so they made them stop. In the National I also should add that there is 5 series instead of 3 you need to get through, and the water at the end if you are still in it. If you finish all 5 series and the water, that is a huge accomplishment in itself. There is usually about 100 or more dogs entered.
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James wrote:You have to win an open every season over here to get a run in the championships, the only time you qualify by other means is by winning it. You only get asked to run the following season after winning it, after that you have to qualify all over again.

That is similar then since you need at least 2 points, which means no less the 2 4th place finishes. And there is most likely double or triple the number of dogs in a trial. Here it is also just ran on birds, what about there?
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You have birds (Pheasants, Pratridge, Pigeon, woodcock, snipe, and many types of duck), rabbits and hare over here. The champs for springers are over three days.
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