Lab too excited during drives- advice needed

[coco]

My lab has just the last 2 weeks started to get overexcited during drives, whining and quivering.

She is 6 years old and it's only her second season out, due to us both being beginners and late starters!
Last season was a very small shoot where we were beating and then picked up a few birds at the end.

This season we are on a still quite small shoot ( 58 birds today) helping to pick up, but some of the drives are busier than others.
I have tried to treat her more like a young dog, as in terms of experience that's what she is, by positioning in a quiet spot, and not sending for many retrieves.

Training with dummies, or even cold game does not come close to replicating the shoot enviroment, and I wonder if we just left it too late and I should leave the dog at home and join the beating team by myself instead.

I also have a 15 month old lab who I'd like to take out next season, and dearly want to learn by my mistakes so this issue doesn't happen with the younger one.

Any advice greatly appreciated.

[Rascal]

Why not take her in the beating line again, that'll keep her occupied and too busy to sit whining and quivering?

Try with your youngster to train in a group over the summer so waiting is a matter of course...

Rascal

[Polmaise]

dummies and training classes in a group are good grounding!
But as the OP has said! ...it ain't the real thing?...
.I still think my ''original post'' , holds more water

[Rascal]

dummies and training classes in a group are good grounding!

But as the OP has said! ...it ain't the real thing?...
.I still think my ''original post'' , holds more water

I meant for the youngster...

[Polmaise]

I meant my ''original post''

[Judy]

Ermm, what original post? It's been a long Christmas!

A whiner tends to remain a whiner but not all dogs whine because of anything the handler / owner has done so your youngster may not make a noise during drives.

The only sure fire way of stopping a whiner during the drive is letting it routinely run in on falling birds- it'll be too busy to make a noise!

[Polmaise]

Ermm, what original post? It's been a long Christmas!

Try to keep up Judy
Too much mulled wine I reckon

[Judy]

Ermm, what original post? It's been a long Christmas!

Try to keep up Judy
Too much mulled wine I reckon

Link please?

[Polmaise]

Ermm, what original post? It's been a long Christmas!

Try to keep up Judy
Too much mulled wine I reckon

Link please?

Removed!? ...I never done it

[Rascal]

dummies and training classes in a group are good grounding!
But as the OP has said! ...it ain't the real thing?...
.I still think my ''original post'' , holds more water

And I hadn't realised it was a competition Robert.

And having trawled through coco's posts this is actually the first time she's posted this problem on here so your reply could not have been deleted unless you are getting mixed up with another forum? Which is also why I've replied on open forum so everyone knows what exactly is going on here.

The idea of this place is.........People post in the main asking for advice, then other members respond with their take on the posters particular problem. The OP who has knowledge of their dog and situation can look at the replies and think which one or even part of various responses they think would help them or their dog most. The idea is that you don't knock others replies and therefore members feel free to respond.

For someone who claims to be non competitive, your replies on here can come over as such...... There is only one way and that's Robert's way, now correct me if I'm wrong but there are hundreds of folks on here working their dogs week in week out or competing with their dogs regularly and winning, they too have valuable input surely.

Lets face it you've asked for advice too about the dog that was freezing on retrieves and the cocker that was burying his and received help.

Please can we take it back to topic now? Respond by all means but not to knock others advice or claim your replies have been removed and leave the OP to consider the replies and sort the wheat from the chaff....


Rascal