Disorientated
Posted: Sun Oct 06, 2019 8:13 pm
Is it possible for a dog to get disorientated in very very heavy cover and in effect lose you or is that just making excuses for a bog off ???
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Re: Disorientated
Posted: Sun Oct 06, 2019 10:53 pm
Dogs can lose you. They don’t have psychic powers.
Re: Disorientated
Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2019 8:06 am
Dogs can lose you, when sweeping picking up I have often seen dogs stop on hearing the recall whistle trying to work out where you are then head off in the wrong direction as they have heard the echo off some trees and think you are in a different direction, no bogoff involved just confused. Beaters can manage it just as easily in large blocks of miscanthus or maize!!
A couple of weeks ago I took a wrong turn in a very large wood and for about 5 minutes I was completely confused as the forest tracks didn't make sense and were heading the wrong way until I twigged what I had done!!
A couple of weeks ago I took a wrong turn in a very large wood and for about 5 minutes I was completely confused as the forest tracks didn't make sense and were heading the wrong way until I twigged what I had done!!
Re: Disorientated
Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2019 8:37 am
Cheers
In that case she defo got lost blanking in the wood on sat. I was pretty sure it wasnt a bog off as her body language and general state on return gave me no indication that she had lost her head, plus this is very unlike her. I was unsure if i was merely trying to convince myself but from what you and naj say then it all makes sense. I am glad that i didnt bollock her on return, luckily i gave her the benefit of the doubt.
In that case she defo got lost blanking in the wood on sat. I was pretty sure it wasnt a bog off as her body language and general state on return gave me no indication that she had lost her head, plus this is very unlike her. I was unsure if i was merely trying to convince myself but from what you and naj say then it all makes sense. I am glad that i didnt bollock her on return, luckily i gave her the benefit of the doubt.
Re: Disorientated
Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2019 10:54 am
tut tut tutips wrote: ↑Mon Oct 07, 2019 8:37 am Cheers
In that case she defo got lost blanking in the wood on sat. I was pretty sure it wasnt a bog off as her body language and general state on return gave me no indication that she had lost her head, plus this is very unlike her. I was unsure if i was merely trying to convince myself but from what you and naj say then it all makes sense. I am glad that i didnt bollock her on return, luckily i gave her the benefit of the doubt.
` bollocking on return?' Have we not taught you anything? I've taken the view with Munsters, there are two types of getting lost. Getting lost and worrying about it and then there's the getting lost, head down and worrying about it later
Re: Disorientated
Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2019 1:10 pm
Way back when I first started with gundogs I went to spectate at a spaniel trial. A lady I knew was told to hunt her dog through about 80 yards of a very high, thick root vegetable crop. Off she went and her dog was instantly lost to my view but not , it seemed, to the ladies view. She was occasionally whistle peeping and arm waving. The dog reappeared within 25 yards of her at the end of her beat and I congratulated her for controlling her dog so well as soon as I got the chance to.
She then told me that she'd not had a clue where her dog was but giving the occasional whistle toot or arm signal persuaded the judges that she was still in control of her dog ! She'd just hoped and prayed that her dog would reappear somewhere near her at the end of the field !
It was a "trick" I have always remembered and I used it several times in trials when my Brittany was required to hunt through high crops or huge expanses of thick "spike grass" where she was completely lost to view for several minutes at a time.
It's not what you know that matters, it's what other people think you know !
Wullie
She then told me that she'd not had a clue where her dog was but giving the occasional whistle toot or arm signal persuaded the judges that she was still in control of her dog ! She'd just hoped and prayed that her dog would reappear somewhere near her at the end of the field !
It was a "trick" I have always remembered and I used it several times in trials when my Brittany was required to hunt through high crops or huge expanses of thick "spike grass" where she was completely lost to view for several minutes at a time.
It's not what you know that matters, it's what other people think you know !
Wullie
Re: Disorientated
Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2019 5:23 pm
I didnt bollock her MM that was my point, i was pretty sure she was lost, plus i understand bollocking on the return is a bad idea.....even though i reckon she would know what the bollocking was for....but thats another topicmunstyman wrote: ↑Mon Oct 07, 2019 10:54 amtut tut tutips wrote: ↑Mon Oct 07, 2019 8:37 am Cheers
In that case she defo got lost blanking in the wood on sat. I was pretty sure it wasnt a bog off as her body language and general state on return gave me no indication that she had lost her head, plus this is very unlike her. I was unsure if i was merely trying to convince myself but from what you and naj say then it all makes sense. I am glad that i didnt bollock her on return, luckily i gave her the benefit of the doubt.
I've taken the view with Munsters, there are two types of getting lost. Getting lost and worrying about it and then there's the getting lost, head down and worrying about it later
Re: Disorientated
Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2019 5:24 pm
Brillianttrekmoor wrote: ↑Mon Oct 07, 2019 1:10 pm Way back when I first started with gundogs I went to spectate at a spaniel trial. A lady I knew was told to hunt her dog through about 80 yards of a very high, thick root vegetable crop. Off she went and her dog was instantly lost to my view but not , it seemed, to the ladies view. She was occasionally whistle peeping and arm waving. The dog reappeared within 25 yards of her at the end of her beat and I congratulated her for controlling her dog so well as soon as I got the chance to.
She then told me that she'd not had a clue where her dog was but giving the occasional whistle toot or arm signal persuaded the judges that she was still in control of her dog ! She'd just hoped and prayed that her dog would reappear somewhere near her at the end of the field !
It was a "trick" I have always remembered and I used it several times in trials when my Brittany was required to hunt through high crops or huge expanses of thick "spike grass" where she was completely lost to view for several minutes at a time.
It's not what you know that matters, it's what other people think you know !
Wullie
Re: Disorientated
Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2019 6:18 pm
We have a drive where my dog gets lost on a regular basis 
he touches base everynow and then and I generally meet him at the bottom.
Unless a dog is boot polishing there is no way to keep track of them! We have an agreement if you blow a recall and another dog comes back to you, it's your dog for the rest of the drive
My dog regularly exchanges hands to the point he will hunt for anyone!
he touches base everynow and then and I generally meet him at the bottom. Unless a dog is boot polishing there is no way to keep track of them! We have an agreement if you blow a recall and another dog comes back to you, it's your dog for the rest of the drive
My dog regularly exchanges hands to the point he will hunt for anyone!
Re: Disorientated
Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2019 6:22 pm
Rough_mut wrote: ↑Mon Oct 07, 2019 6:18 pm We have a drive where my dog gets lost on a regular basis
Unless a dog is boot polishing there is no way to keep track of them! We have an agreement if you blow a recall and another dog comes back to you, it's your dog for the rest of the drive
My dog regularly exchanges hands to the point he will hunt for anyone!