quartering problem's

[Suirway]

How do you discourage your dog from quartering back behind the handler?

[newf]

I typically keep quiet and when the pup moves forward again, then I praise. Easy answer, don’t acknowledge what you don’t want, in this case. If you try to punish the behavior it could hurt the forward beat if not clear to the pup.

P.S. I’m a hunter not a trialer, so, my standards will differ.

[farleigh]

Hunt directly into the wind so that he hunts across and turns into the face of the wind. If using hidden items for the dog to hunt and retrieve make sure he makes all his finds in front of you. Give him time to cover all his ground before you move forward.

[Nickheref]

Agree with farleigh, hunt into the wind and take your forward speed from the dog. Don't be in a rush. If you are not heading into the wind the dog may actually be doing something right naturally and you are preventing them from using the wind which their brain is telling them to do. Personally I wouldn't hunt a dog for hidden objects, I have only tried it once and wasn't able to ensure the dog doesn't wind the next but one "find", if that makes sense and pull forward on that then have to be pulled back for the one it missed , the mere fact that even if done right can mean the dog has to repeatedly bring you the objects messes about with its forward movement and starts to make it a bit figure of 8ish. If on game the dog can be stopped at the flush and hunted on from that point not returning to the handler after every find!
Young dogs often run behind the handler in the early days but they usually soon get the hang of it as they learn to read what their nose is telling them. If they have real drive the issue is soon stopping them ranging too far forward not running behind you!!

[Suirway]

Thank you for your responses I will take it all on board.

[Judy]

Sometimes walking too fast can cause the dog to pass behind you.

[ips]

Sometimes walking too fast can cause the dog to pass behind you.

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I know because I was guilty of it

[newf]

What’s to stop a dog even at a slow walk if there’s a back wind and an interesting scent? Just conditioning? If the dog ever flushes by going back then it will become a frequent part of the beat, IMO. Personally, I don’t let it bother me if the dog continues to stay within range and if it doesn’t become excessive.

How I would correct if required: either stop or turn the dog and insist it follow my direction across me or forward and parallel to my line of travel. Since I hunt edges typically, keeping the dog with me or slightly ahead works as my position is outside looking inward as the dog works.

[Judy]

In my humble the biggest issue with a back wind is the dog hooching too far ahead before it hunts back towards me.

[munstyman]

The biggest problem with a back wind ( or any wind ) when hunting a dog is the handler recognising it