Billy can't be KC Registered!!!!! Let down
Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 11:14 am
Afternoon All
Well, we have had Billy for about 2 months now, we got him from an advert on epupz, which advertised working cocker pups, legally docked and KC registered etc etc. We went along to have a look at him and the parents, this was our first working dog but i applied the same sort of logic that i had used when i have bought previous pups. We saw both parents and their pedigree papers plus their individual 5 generation pedigree. To be honest we were not too concerned about his actual pedigree, we wanted a good strong healthy pup who was outgoing. I wanted to do some gun dog training with him with a view to do some beating and picking up etc, nothing as glamorous as trials or any other high end stuff as i am a complete novice with gundogs and training. There were two pups in the litter, the parents were both good looking dogs and seemed nice and healthy.
We paid £430 ( advertised at £450) for him due to a bit of cheekiness on my part, the breeders seemed genuine and we were there for a good hour. We were told that his KC papers would be sent through within the next 3 weeks or so as they had just sent them off. I did not question this as we had seen the parents and their pedigrees.
We still hadnt received the pedigree papers through so i wrote to the breeder, it took a few days to get a reply as they had been on holiday but last night we got the following call:
Apparantley Billy cannot be KC registered as the bitch he was bred from has had too many litters within the allotted time limit set by the kennel club, cant remember whether it was 6 litters in 8 years or 8 litters in 6 years? Anyway the breeder said they had thought this one was her final litter to be in the time frame, unfortunately not as it turns out and the KC sent them a letter. The bitch didnt seem like a worn out breeder who has been used to churn puppies out and the breeders were extremely apologetic. They offered to take Billy back and give us a full refund, this is not an option for us as he is a massive part of our family already and a good dog. OR one of their other bitches is due to have a litter in about 8 weeks time, this is her second litter, they have offered us the pick of a bitch from that litter at a massively discounted price and the guarantee it will be KC registered. Billy not being KC registered is not such a massive problem for us as we were not planning on trialling him etc its just that we feel let down by it. I have asked the breeder for a copy of the KC letter, copy of the fathers pedigree and a copy of the mothers pedigree plus a refund for the KC registration fee.
I suppose at the end of the day it is our own fault but we still have a cracking dog that we are extremely happy with. We will decide in a few weeks as to whether we want another bitch but i doubt we will bother to be honest.
What would you have done in this situation?
Kind Regards
Mike
Well, we have had Billy for about 2 months now, we got him from an advert on epupz, which advertised working cocker pups, legally docked and KC registered etc etc. We went along to have a look at him and the parents, this was our first working dog but i applied the same sort of logic that i had used when i have bought previous pups. We saw both parents and their pedigree papers plus their individual 5 generation pedigree. To be honest we were not too concerned about his actual pedigree, we wanted a good strong healthy pup who was outgoing. I wanted to do some gun dog training with him with a view to do some beating and picking up etc, nothing as glamorous as trials or any other high end stuff as i am a complete novice with gundogs and training. There were two pups in the litter, the parents were both good looking dogs and seemed nice and healthy.
We paid £430 ( advertised at £450) for him due to a bit of cheekiness on my part, the breeders seemed genuine and we were there for a good hour. We were told that his KC papers would be sent through within the next 3 weeks or so as they had just sent them off. I did not question this as we had seen the parents and their pedigrees.
We still hadnt received the pedigree papers through so i wrote to the breeder, it took a few days to get a reply as they had been on holiday but last night we got the following call:
Apparantley Billy cannot be KC registered as the bitch he was bred from has had too many litters within the allotted time limit set by the kennel club, cant remember whether it was 6 litters in 8 years or 8 litters in 6 years? Anyway the breeder said they had thought this one was her final litter to be in the time frame, unfortunately not as it turns out and the KC sent them a letter. The bitch didnt seem like a worn out breeder who has been used to churn puppies out and the breeders were extremely apologetic. They offered to take Billy back and give us a full refund, this is not an option for us as he is a massive part of our family already and a good dog. OR one of their other bitches is due to have a litter in about 8 weeks time, this is her second litter, they have offered us the pick of a bitch from that litter at a massively discounted price and the guarantee it will be KC registered. Billy not being KC registered is not such a massive problem for us as we were not planning on trialling him etc its just that we feel let down by it. I have asked the breeder for a copy of the KC letter, copy of the fathers pedigree and a copy of the mothers pedigree plus a refund for the KC registration fee.
I suppose at the end of the day it is our own fault but we still have a cracking dog that we are extremely happy with. We will decide in a few weeks as to whether we want another bitch but i doubt we will bother to be honest.
What would you have done in this situation?
Kind Regards
Mike
for a start and I hate to say this but you can't even be sure the dogs you saw and the papers matched either. 
At least you know, next time you want a working dog go to a reliable gundog breeder and if you're not sure ask on here.
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