Re-call/hunting problem!

[Alice]

. When she ignores the whistle, go and get her and then put her on lead. Using the lead lift her front legs off the floor and walk forwards, give the lead a shake and in a stern voice say 'what are you doing', do this 2-3 times and then return her front legs to the floor.
Then stand in front of her and take a step back, then blow your recall whistle and pull her firmly towards you, repeat this 3-4 times. This is so she knows why she being told off.

I don't doubt this worked for your dog, as it works for many many others, but I don't think this is a one-size-fits all treatment and I don't think the OP should do it.There are some dogs who would not respond at all well to that sort of handling. I would also not lift a dog off the floor using a lead.

[Lewis1]

. When she ignores the whistle, go and get her and then put her on lead. Using the lead lift her front legs off the floor and walk forwards, give the lead a shake and in a stern voice say 'what are you doing', do this 2-3 times and then return her front legs to the floor.
Then stand in front of her and take a step back, then blow your recall whistle and pull her firmly towards you, repeat this 3-4 times. This is so she knows why she being told off.

I don't doubt this worked for your dog, as it works for many many others, but I don't think this is a one-size-fits all treatment and I don't think the OP should do it.There are some dogs who would not respond at all well to that sort of handling. I would also not lift a dog off the floor using a lead.

I did express at the start of what I wrote that he should see a trainer before he tries what worked with mine for the very reason you've tried to pull me up on. I should though of put on my original post that the lifting of her front paws with the lead has only been needed once at the very start. I will edit my original post to make it clear.

[Vasey10uk]

Thanks for the advice. I do appreciate all advice. I do see a difference when I take a firmer approach with her but she can be quite sensitive as well. So we will be going to see a trainer in the next couple of weeks to see what he has to say.

I also purchased a DVD by David Lisett. It was a good DVD but a lot of the stuff was building things up from 10 weeks old. I have no doubt this is the way to do it and if we were to get another we would. However, we got her at 4 months and only started looking at Gundog training 2 months ago. So much of what we are trying to do is correcting issues from our naive approach previously.

[Cass]

Doesn't matter her age. If the basics aren't there start as if she's a puppy even if she's 10 yrs old

[newf]

Doesn't matter her age. If the basics aren't there start as if she's a puppy even if she's 10 yrs old

I think that too much emphasis on dogs being made of glass brings on more problems to many beginning handlers. Start slow and simple with no precision and you'll work your way to a trained dog faster than you think.

[Springfield Pointers]

I'll try to explain the best I can what my trainer has taught me. When she ignores the whistle, go and get her and then put her on lead. Using the lead lift her front legs off the floor and walk forwards, give the lead a shake and in a stern voice say 'what are you doing', do this 2-3 times and then return her front legs to the floor. I've only done this once when she was really bad and had buggered off for a few minutes.

Then stand in front of her and take a step back, then blow your recall whistle and pull her firmly towards you, repeat this 3-4 times. This is so she knows why she being told off. You have to be able to switch from Mr nice to Mr nasty.

No. This will not work with everyone and certainly not with people and dogs who don't understand each other. Learn first about your dog, then learn how to get her/him to want to please you. Throttling it and lifting it off the ground by its neck on a lead is some bad advice if ever I've heard it. Training should be seen as fun for the dog and it should start to learn that all good things come through you, the handler. You are the centre of its pleasure requirements. Without you there is no fun. You're certainly not going to get that message across by stretching its neck, and certainly if you have no idea about why you are stretching its neck.