disbelief and disgust !

[Dan Newcombe]

I get that he price increase is a bit mad but what do you do?
We need to breed replacements and automatically you get surplus pups.
Say for argument that they are market value of £2k. If you advertise at £900 (which would be roughly pre COVID value) you would never be off the phone with people wanting one - they will almost guaranteed not be the best homes.

The price is the market price when you want to buy something - the seller decides what that might be according to the market.
What is obvious is that the people who want to buy pups are the ones that are getting upset in the main - solution is to breed your own and sell them for 1/3rd market value and see how you get on.
I doubt that the current levels will carry on but I can easily see £1500 being the new price.

[99gems]

to be honest i think 1500 is a very fair price for a health tested, proper pedigree dog.

[Judy]

to be honest i think 1500 is a very fair price for a health tested, proper pedigree dog.

Possibly but 2.5K for one that has no tests, no FT awards is not! Its plain greed, 2.5k seems to be the going rate.

The price is the market price when you want to buy something - the seller decides what that might be according to the market.
What is obvious is that the people who want to buy pups are the ones that are getting upset in the main - solution is to breed your own and sell them for 1/3rd market value and see how you get on.

This is the trouble, all sorts of rubbish will now be bred from either because people can't afford to buy a pup in or because they are jumping on the bandwagon - nice little earner innit? Tax free too if you're lucky.

[trekmoor]

Anyone who would pay these sums of money for a pup is their own worst enemy and is a fool. There are always dogs needing a good home and some of them would work ....if folk could train them ! They would not be F.T. Champions but few folk actually need one of those anyway !

Bill T.

[newf]

Anyone who would pay these sums of money for a pup is their own worst enemy and is a fool. There are always dogs needing a good home and some of them would work ....if folk could train them ! They would not be F.T. Champions but few folk actually need one of those anyway !

Bill T.

Right on Wullie! A good dog is one that is healthy and has basic instincts for the job. No need to refinance your mortgage to get one.

[munstyman]

I get that he price increase is a bit mad but what do you do?
We need to breed replacements and automatically you get surplus pups.
Say for argument that they are market value of £2k. If you advertise at £900 (which would be roughly pre COVID value) you would never be off the phone with people wanting one - they will almost guaranteed not be the best homes.

The price is the market price when you want to buy something - the seller decides what that might be according to the market.
What is obvious is that the people who want to buy pups are the ones that are getting upset in the main - solution is to breed your own and sell them for 1/3rd market value and see how you get on.
I doubt that the current levels will carry on but I can easily see £1500 being the new price.

I'm afraid that this assumes those paying more are going to be good homes, and nothing could be farther than the truth imo. Those with big budgets are often those that put little real value on the things they buy, apart from the monetary aspect. How often do you see these days juvenile dogs being advertised at prices clearly set at recouping the initial cost when the dog no longer fits the `idea'. ( The cynic in me, reinforced by what I've been told from those in breed rescue organisations, find that sometimes the financial aspect clearly over rides the good home aspect when rescues are avoided because they don't pay for the dogs they rehome! Yet by definition they are looking out for the best interest of the dog,( Mostly ), not the finances of the previous owner. )
How many corvid pups will hit the rescue kennels when a few months after the pandemic ends and work/commutes/careers/family budgets eat into the all important free time a young dog requires. How do you think this will effect the `market price' added to the late to the party greed breeders and their pups, and those buyers also trying to recoup their `investment' ??
There is nothing wrong with charging a fair price for a well bred pup, but what is the price a good breeder is going to put on a good working home for a good (for) life for a pup they have bred? It seems some souls are going for £1000 surplus these days ( and its not tax free )

[99gems]

there is no way I would pay for a non health tested pup. However I did pay 1500 for my youngest wcs, she is off superb lines, not just 'ftch' but a line i researched and waited almost 2 years for. She is clear for everything by heritage and I consider her worth every penny as a dog Im going to have for a very long time hopefully who is precisely what I wanted and is a much adored family member.
A friend on the other hand paid 2500 for a non reg , non health tested pup... makes me very very sad.