sprocker spaniel

[t jack]

So was Mallowdale a suspect line?

There all suspect lines, their Cocker's at least we can rule out this line as its tested, pity some other famous lines didn't test..,

[Naj]

Wow, didn't realise it was so bad!

[t jack]

Wow, didn't realise it was so bad!

Havent you read this thread?

[Naj]

[johnnyp]

I see someone's tested and posted results on FB of ftch mallowdale gun x ftch mallowdale maggy and come back as level one cocker.

I said all along I thought the allegations were malicious.

[johnnyp]

I see someone's tested and posted results on FB of ftch mallowdale gun x ftch mallowdale maggy and come back as level one cocker.

I said all along I thought the allegations were malicious.

Be interested to see the FB post, can you say who it was ?

[alpha]

I agree with you Naj about a cocker has a distinct action,but i.m.o.it also as a distinct style in the way it works its ground.Quoted from someone who knows a thing or two about the breed:- "Whenhunting they make use of little runs,in and out of cover,made by game.The best ones seem to hunt similar to a stoat.Rapid movement,then stopping momentarily,checking left and right for air scent and game movement.In and out of cover.They command attention,you dare not take your eyes off them,you never know where they will appear or what will happen next".
Certainly agree about not knowing what s going to happen next

Just to throw a spanner in the works about "cocker style" do we think it could be that people are training them to quarter like a springer as they think thats the way a "spaniel" should hunt……

I've seen lots of good cockers at training events been taught to quarter mostly by Cocker inexperienced trainers they seem to train them the same as a springer…..which isn't really how a cocker should work

Watching a good cocker is one of the best things ever lb for lb the best gun dog anyone can ever have

[ips]

I agree with you Naj about a cocker has a distinct action,but i.m.o.it also as a distinct style in the way it works its ground.Quoted from someone who knows a thing or two about the breed:- "Whenhunting they make use of little runs,in and out of cover,made by game.The best ones seem to hunt similar to a stoat.Rapid movement,then stopping momentarily,checking left and right for air scent and game movement.In and out of cover.They command attention,you dare not take your eyes off them,you never know where they will appear or what will happen next".
Certainly agree about not knowing what s going to happen next

Just to throw a spanner in the works about "cocker style" do we think it could be that people are training them to quarter like a springer as they think thats the way a "spaniel" should hunt……

I've seen lots of good cockers at training events been taught to quarter mostly by Cocker inexperienced trainers they seem to train them the same as a springer…..which isn't really how a cocker should work

Watching a good cocker is one of the best things ever lb for lb the best gun dog anyone can ever have

Interesting !!
So how should a cocker be trained to hunt if not quartering springer style. ??

[alpha]

I agree with you Naj about a cocker has a distinct action,but i.m.o.it also as a distinct style in the way it works its ground.Quoted from someone who knows a thing or two about the breed:- "Whenhunting they make use of little runs,in and out of cover,made by game.The best ones seem to hunt similar to a stoat.Rapid movement,then stopping momentarily,checking left and right for air scent and game movement.In and out of cover.They command attention,you dare not take your eyes off them,you never know where they will appear or what will happen next".
Certainly agree about not knowing what s going to happen next

Just to throw a spanner in the works about "cocker style" do we think it could be that people are training them to quarter like a springer as they think thats the way a "spaniel" should hunt……

I've seen lots of good cockers at training events been taught to quarter mostly by Cocker inexperienced trainers they seem to train them the same as a springer…..which isn't really how a cocker should work

Watching a good cocker is one of the best things ever lb for lb the best gun dog anyone can ever have

Interesting !!
So how should a cocker be trained to hunt if not quartering springer style. ??

Cockers are supposed to "basket weave" in areas looking for game …..rather than quarter like a spring more a case of deliberately finding game than sweeping an area in a pattern which is what springers do best
Horses for course on rushes and less dense cover a springer is better but thick cover,briars, hedges and areas that they can work like a weasel they are the much better dog IMO

[ips]

Thanks for explanation. So in your opinion as long as there within 15 yds or so effectively just let em get on with it. ???