Scotland/UK referendum
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I didn't vote for the SNP, nor did many other people living in Scotland. And I don't believe that an independent Scotland would be a better place for me or my Grandkids to live in, & neither do their parents.
Naj
Naj
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Why we have Scottish MPs we did not vote for, at least you have your own parliament that’s more than we have.I do not mind giving ten years for my kids and grand kids to have a better country to live in reflecting on the values of the populace not the thoughts of someone or political party we do not vote for.
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Cambusvale
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Naj, your opinion is your alone but in the last vote more people voted for SNP than any other, that is why they sit with a majority. That is democracy in action, that is what will happen on the 18th, the majority decide on a simple Yes or no to independence and we will wait and see who will win.
Ally Learmonth
Riffmuir Kennels
Riffmuir Kennels
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My opinion is shared by many others, as is yours, Ally. But the SNP are in a majority position because they won more seats than any other party. As regards the vote, I think you'll find that more people voted for other parties than they did for the SNP, so a majority of those who voted actually wanted another party in power. Democracy in action, as you say, but it has its anomalies.
Naj
Naj
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Naj wrote:My opinion is shared by many others, as is yours, Ally. But the SNP are in a majority position because they won more seats than any other party. As regards the vote, I think you'll find that more people voted for other parties than they did for the SNP, so a majority of those who voted actually wanted another party in power. Democracy in action, as you say, but it has its anomalies.
Naj
Naj, I have read many of your posts and you have passed on many words of wisdom to many people. I can't believe that someone as obviously intelligent as yourself would think it prudent to have shared power, instead of one democratically elected government?! Please don't take this as a personal slur from a newbie, but I can't see how your post makes sense.
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Springfield Pointers
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It's called politics and opinion is not hereditary. Look around you, the whole world is at odds with it's leadership. There will never be consensus on how things are done. Ever. Only acceptance of a system. Another forum I belong to has two subjects that are taboo and you post them at your peril. 1. Religion. 2. Politics.StuPark wrote:Naj, I have read many of your posts and you have passed on many words of wisdom to many people. I can't believe that someone as obviously intelligent as yourself would think it prudent to have shared power, instead of one democratically elected government?! Please don't take this as a personal slur from a newbie, but I can't see how your post makes sense.
I was quite surprised this thread was as civil for as long as it was - even the insults are polite! In my part of the world, the civility would have lasted 2 posts. Impressive.
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It's because ( THE ENGLISH) are gentleman,,it's in the breeding you see.!!!!!!!!
funny eh.?!
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Or.... It could be because of the old dragons who moderate.
I have read a book called Dominion by C. j. Sansom about what Britain might have been like in the fifties if we had lost WW2. He wrote a interesting article at the end of the book giving his opinion of the pros and cons of devolution and the inevitable results of too much patriotism, it should be compulsory reading for anyone intending to vote at this referendum.
I am not fussed either way but I do strongly object to having to contribute to the enormous cost of splitting the two Countries, if you guys up North were happy to pay for it all out of your oil and whisky revenues then that's fine by me but I guess it will be the ex-UK as a whole which will pick up the tab. For what? It has always been and will always be Scotland and you guys will always be Scots, personally I was born British and have always been proud to be British, I guess I will have to get used to the idea of being simply English for the remainder of my life. Just seems a such stupid waste of money.
I have read a book called Dominion by C. j. Sansom about what Britain might have been like in the fifties if we had lost WW2. He wrote a interesting article at the end of the book giving his opinion of the pros and cons of devolution and the inevitable results of too much patriotism, it should be compulsory reading for anyone intending to vote at this referendum.
I am not fussed either way but I do strongly object to having to contribute to the enormous cost of splitting the two Countries, if you guys up North were happy to pay for it all out of your oil and whisky revenues then that's fine by me but I guess it will be the ex-UK as a whole which will pick up the tab. For what? It has always been and will always be Scotland and you guys will always be Scots, personally I was born British and have always been proud to be British, I guess I will have to get used to the idea of being simply English for the remainder of my life. Just seems a such stupid waste of money.
In life, it is important to know when to stop arguing with people and simply let them be wrong.
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Ermm make that capitulated after Dunkirk rather than "lost" the War. There's a brief synopsis including a few of his thoughts on Nationalism here; http://www.theguardian.com/books/2012/o ... zi-britain
In life, it is important to know when to stop arguing with people and simply let them be wrong.
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Springfield Pointers
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Is THAT why my Scottish mates refer to a good night out at the pub as being "well oiled"?Judy wrote:if you guys up North were happy to pay for it all out of your oil and whisky revenues