setter/ pointer training club, north of inverness?

[old boy]

Get her on a long line and reinforce the basics of recall. I mean a really long line! Once she has learnt to ignore you, it will become habit! I think Anne is further away, she's near Huntly.

hi, get a e collar, I know they are supposedly unpopular with gundog folk but you would be surprised how many use them ? THEY DO WORK, using a long line is fine but always prone to get caught up and if you are working your dogs 40 50 yds out that would be a long line to drag, an e collar is small and compact has variable stimulas settings and correction is instant the dog learns far quicker, example your on the hill the dogs 60 70 yds out bumps up a roe and takes of, with a young dog in training you probably have next to no chance of calling it of with a e collar you can correct this instantly and dog assosiates the chasing with instant correction, with out the collar you shouted and bawled at the dog to stop, then punished it once it comes back out of frustration, lesson learned by dog is dont come back if angry and frustrated.
No they may be every ones favourite hate but they work when used correctly,

Just as a matter of interest why would you be trying to recall the dog when it has found a scent ? is that not what you have it for ?

[Rothievale]

I agree, an e collar has its place for chasing but surely as she has only had this dog for 2 weeks, she really needs to teach the dog what she wants......a long line will install basics into the dog, there's no point in zapping it if it doesn't understand what you mean!!!! One thing that I have seen works really well with these dogs is the beep part of the collar as it can break that trance like obsession with scent and/or running. I have a woman coming today who came out with me last week with 3 Gordon setters, stunning dogs but they were so overwhelmed by their need to run that I honestly think they couldn't actually hear you. That is where the beep can help get that connection. But groundwork is essential, Billy and Penny Darragh spend hours with their setters doing basic groundwork on the beach and arable fields before they take them anywhere with any scent. Their dogs are very well trained and no e collars are used......

[old boy]

I agree, an e collar has its place for chasing but surely as she has only had this dog for 2 weeks, she really needs to teach the dog what she wants......a long line will install basics into the dog, there's no point in zapping it if it doesn't understand what you mean!!!! One thing that I have seen works really well with these dogs is the beep part of the collar as it can break that trance like obsession with scent and/or running. I have a woman coming today who came out with me last week with 3 Gordon setters, stunning dogs but they were so overwhelmed by their need to run that I honestly think they couldn't actually hear you. That is where the beep can help get that connection. But groundwork is essential, Billy and Penny Darragh spend hours with their setters doing basic groundwork on the beach and arable fields before they take them anywhere with any scent. Their dogs are very well trained and no e collars are used......

hi, yes the beep part of the collar is very effective if you beep the dog before zapping a dog soon learns that once beeped its time to obey, mine used to chase deer, I used to blow the stop whistle and press the buzzer if she ignored the whistle and buzzer then a flash impulse was given [mine have flash or continuious, flash is just one impulse ] this has stopped her from chasing roe now just by blowing the stop whistle no need to shock, most e collars have variable strength settings from very low to high, using a low setting or the buzzer would instantly get the dogs attention without dragging the long length of cord [incidently the thin nylon washing line to a wide greyhound collar is best] and the very real risk of snagging.
The e collar will give you option of attracting your dogs attention ie the buzzer or very mild stimulation at a considerable range, plus the option of correcting if your dog gives chase and that is correction at the very moment the dog will understand
fair enough e collars can be abused but a great many dogs have been shot or passed on that could have been corrected with carfull use of the e collar