After all the recent fuss!

[EssGrouse]

Well now there is Clumber gate, I'm awaiting the springer gate haha

[munstyman]

Ten years from now there will be cockerpoo gate and all out Labradoodledoo followed up by channel four doing a follow up of `Designer mongrels Exposed'. You have to love modern society, did I see Denim is this years vogue, wow I'm trendy again.

[WGD]

Well now there is Clumber gate, I'm awaiting the springer gate haha

Springers will just jump the gate.... proper dogs

[EssGrouse]

Having been banned from a trial result page for mentioning exactly this I'm finding it very amusing!

Maybe because the trialling group isnt for that. Seems some people didn't get the memo.

And Naj they can know what they are talking about all they like, just not on the group. There are other places for those discussions, like here!

[Naj]

Having been banned from a trial result page for mentioning exactly this I'm finding it very amusing!

Maybe because the trialling group isnt for that. Seems some people didn't get the memo.

And Naj they can know what they are talking about all they like, just not on the group. There are other places for those discussions, like here!

The group that Miesque, me and Judy got kicked off wasn’t a trialling group but a group set up specifically to besmirch the reputation of one individual and dogs of certain breeding.

Naj

[Dawnrazor]

Having been banned from a trial result page for mentioning exactly this I'm finding it very amusing!

Yeah, they wouldn’t want to hear from people who really knew what they were talking about.

Not true, you continually answered questions you weren't asked as I remember.

The confusing part is, having a background in genetics, I was happy to explain better ways of testing to prove what they were looking at was true or false but no one wanted to listen!

[Dawnrazor]

Having been banned from a trial result page for mentioning exactly this I'm finding it very amusing!

Yeah, they wouldn’t want to hear from people who really knew what they were talking about.

Not true, you continually answered questions you weren't asked as I remember.

The confusing part is, having a background in genetics, I was happy to explain better ways of testing to prove what they were looking at was true or false but no one wanted to listen!

It wasn't and you know it Naj
You were kicked off for being an argumentative twat at times fair????

[Dawnrazor]

Well now there is Clumber gate, I'm awaiting the springer gate haha

Thus is true, for the naysayers, we are now at the state of having a Clumber Spaniel affected by Springer Spaniel disease introduced by a Cocker Spaniel
But everything is ok because a couple of people on a website read by 20 people (I stole that line )
Who have no first hand knowledge of it happening say
It doesn't go on and it's only "jealously"

[Dawnrazor]

https://embarkvet.com/resources/dog-bre ... erm=878501

After all that money making fuss regarding pure Cockers this appears. Which is basically what a lot of us were saying all along, I even got chucked off one Farcebook group for mentioning the issue on several occasions. Meantime the working side Cockers has now suffered another huge genetic bottleneck which has done it no favours whatsoever.
Its time the KC put a limit on the number of times a stud dog can be used.

And yet Embark are standing by their sibling relatedness test of mallowdale cockers to rosebay blossom in court
Do not think its over
.

[Judy]

As several people have said, endlessly, sibling / parentage tests are completely different to the "guess the breed" tests such as the ones chucked about as gospel and thought by many to prove lots of things. You know, the "my dog is a proven cocker cos Wisdom said so" brigade which has done the breed a tremendous disservice.